Caesar CXXXVII Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Let say that Titus Flavius Clemens cos. 82 was not Christian (and if he was, who was the next ?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelia Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Let say that Titus Flavius Clemens cos. 82 was not Christian (and if he was, who was the next ?) Didn't Clemens convert to Judaism instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klingan Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Let say that Titus Flavius Clemens cos. 82 was not Christian (and if he was, who was the next ?) Didn't Clemens convert to Judaism instead? What's the source on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingsoc Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Let say that Titus Flavius Clemens cos. 82 was not Christian (and if he was, who was the next ?) Didn't Clemens convert to Judaism instead? It's unclear, Cassius Dio mention that he adopted Jewish customs ("The charge brought against them both was that of atheism, a charge on which many others who drifted into Jewish ways were condemned" - 67.14.2). I think it's rather dubious since in Domitianus time many have been accuse of adopting Jewish customs and I suppose it's was a device to get rid of political rivals. Some identify Clemens as a senator who is mentioned in rabbinic literature as a convert to Judaism, there is also a tradition that he and is wife were christian converters. there is an attempt to combine between the two evidences and claim that he converted to a Christian-Jewish sect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelia Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Let say that Titus Flavius Clemens cos. 82 was not Christian (and if he was, who was the next ?) Didn't Clemens convert to Judaism instead? What's the source on this? I just remember reading somewhere that he was very sympathetic to the Jews and may have converted (unfortunately I don't remember anymore where I saw it). Probably not the most reliable source, whatever it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingsoc Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Let say that Titus Flavius Clemens cos. 82 was not Christian (and if he was, who was the next ?) Didn't Clemens convert to Judaism instead? What's the source on this? I just remember reading somewhere that he was very sympathetic to the Jews and may have converted (unfortunately I don't remember anymore where I saw it). Probably not the most reliable source, whatever it was. Ahem... look at my previous post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurelia Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Let say that Titus Flavius Clemens cos. 82 was not Christian (and if he was, who was the next ?) Didn't Clemens convert to Judaism instead? What's the source on this? I just remember reading somewhere that he was very sympathetic to the Jews and may have converted (unfortunately I don't remember anymore where I saw it). Probably not the most reliable source, whatever it was. Ahem... look at my previous post Just did. You were quicker than me posting your reply. Thanks for the info, at least I don't feel like I was so wide off the mark anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar CXXXVII Posted March 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 "...With reference to Champlin's article of I982, and his identification of Ovinius Gallicanus as the first Christian consul..." (Statistics and the Conversion of the Roman Aristocracy, T. D. Barnes, The Journal of Roman Studies, Vol. 85, (1995), pp. 135-147) He was consul in 317 Another opinion ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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