falkor Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 I'm looking for a good, possibly achaeology based, book on the ancient city of Rome--highly illustrated--describing and showing how Rome rose from the hills, to when it contained Nero's Palace and the giant lake, followed by the era that is represented by Google Earth etc. I expect the book to contain information on the many ancient monuments in Rome--surviving and demolished--with building dates. Does such a book exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maty Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 I'm looking for a good, possibly achaeology based, book on the ancient city of Rome--highly illustrated--describing and showing how Rome rose from the hills, to when it contained Nero's Palace and the giant lake, followed by the era that is represented by Google Earth etc. I expect the book to contain information on the many ancient monuments in Rome--surviving and demolished--with building dates. Does such a book exist? I suspect that if such a book existed, I'd have come across it by now. The nearest I know of is called simply 'Rome' and is produced by A. Bell. However, it goes well beyond the AD 60s and is in any case both rare and outdated - my copy is 1898. You might do better with several books - and in my opinion there are few better places to start than the (illustration-free) Platner's topographical dictionary of Rome. However, be warned that this is not a book for beginners or even the casually competent. The pictorial dictionary of Rome - by Nash is more approachable. I believe someone called Richardson has produced an updated and illustrated edition of Platner so you might consider that . Also consider Heffner and Kerr's Atlas for seeing things in place, and if your French is up to the challenge, Coarelli's archaeological guide is meant to be pretty good (my French is not up to it, so I can't say). If you do find anything else along the same lines or better, I'll be eager to hear of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludovicus Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 I'm looking for a good, possibly achaeology based, book on the ancient city of Rome--highly illustrated--describing and showing how Rome rose from the hills, to when it contained Nero's Palace and the giant lake, followed by the era that is represented by Google Earth etc. I expect the book to contain information on the many ancient monuments in Rome--surviving and demolished--with building dates. Does such a book exist? I think so. "The Oxford Archaeological Guide: Rome" is not a history of the city so much as a history of each neighborhood and its ancient structures, preclassical through Renaisannce. Nonetheless, there's no better source on the Eternal City for an archaeological history. There are many illustrations, photos, and excellent neighborhood maps. You can find more info. here: http://www.amazon.com/Rome-Oxford-Archaeol...s/dp/0192880039 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladict Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Maty, Coarelli's book has been translated to English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maty Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Maty, Coarelli's book has been translated to English. Thanks Maladict! I think you have just sorted out my Christmas present to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Porcius Cato Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I'd second Ludovicus' recommendation of the Oxford guide. I took it with me on my first trip to Rome, and it was simply invaluable in sussing out what's what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkor Posted December 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Thanks for your recommendations, guys! I'll be following this up pretty quickly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkor Posted December 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) I checked both those books today. They look comprehensive and well illustrated (although they never had the Temple Of Isis), but they are presented in, like, a dictionary fashion. In other words, they are like a tourist's guide to Rome aimed at the historian. I am after a book with the same info, albeit presented in chronological order with a series of changing plans of the entire city (not plans of specific areas with different period buildings overlaid). Let me try and explain it logically based on what I would expect for different chapters: Recommended Books - format Chapter 1 - intro Here's a map of all the buildings covered in the book. Chapter 2 - Palatine Hill area How the Forum area changed throughout the ages Chapter 6 - Colosseum Valley Colosseum with Nero's Palace and Trajan's baths overlaid. Wanted book format Chapter 1 - Rome origins As you can see from the first map, settlement is mainly apparent in the Palatine Hill area, where Rome originated. There was no masonry buildings at this time, and no boundaries. Chapter 6 - after Nero's fire Nero's Palace built with lake + new buildings added to forum. Chapter 7 - after Nero's reign Colosseum replaced Nero's Palace. Some buildings of the forum were demolished; others rebuilt. Obviously, I just made most of that up, but you can now get a better idea of what I am looking for--not a tourist guide but a proper evolutionary history. Edited December 18, 2008 by falkor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Paulinus Maximus Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 I checked both those books today. They look comprehensive and well illustrated (although they never had the Temple Of Isis), but they are presented in, like, a dictionary fashion. In other words, they are like a tourist's guide to Rome aimed at the historian. I am after a book with the same info, albeit presented in chronological order with a series of changing plans of the entire city (not plans of specific areas with different period buildings overlaid). Let me try and explain it logically based on what I would expect for different chapters: Recommended Books - format Chapter 1 - intro Here's a map of all the buildings covered in the book. Chapter 2 - Palatine Hill area How the Forum area changed throughout the ages Chapter 6 - Colosseum Valley Colosseum with Nero's Palace and Trajan's baths overlaid. Wanted book format Chapter 1 - Rome origins As you can see from the first map, settlement is mainly apparent in the Palatine Hill area, where Rome originated. There was no masonry buildings at this time, and no boundaries. Chapter 6 - after Nero's fire Nero's Palace built with lake + new buildings added to forum. Chapter 7 - after Nero's reign Colosseum replaced Nero's Palace. Some buildings of the forum were demolished; others rebuilt. Obviously, I just made most of that up, but you can now get a better idea of what I am looking for--not a tourist guide but a proper evolutionary history. If you happen to come across that book, falkor, then please point me in the right direction. If a book like that does exist then it would be worth it's weight in gold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkor Posted December 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 (edited) Sure, but it is the most logical way of writing a history book. I mean, we have books on Roman London written just like my desired format outlined above. I gaurantee there must also be a similar book on Rome, even if it has less site plans with, instead, emphasis on smaller scale plans of the evolving city. Perhaps Maladict will know of such a book? Edited December 18, 2008 by falkor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladict Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I'm not sure it exists, at least not in a guide book format. But I'm really not up to speed on guide books, I already have my favourites and you'll never get them away from me. I usually take my blue guide and red TCI guide with me, but those cover the entire history of the city. TCI has recently put out an ancient period version though, it has pictures and more maps. But don't expect a chronological approach in either of them, they're place-by-place like the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladict Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Btw, that Isis temple is not in any guide book because nobody is sure what it really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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