First Humans To Settle Americas Came From Europe, Not From Asia...

[Viggen]

A Valparaiso University professor

[Ursus]

Quite extraordinary if true.

[ASCLEPIADES]

A Valparaiso University professor

[Northern Neil]

Please forgive me, but I just can't see how can anyone get the proposed European origin conclusion from the presented findings, even if validated.

 

Comments on this thread debate some possible explanations:

 

http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8546

 

however, Scientific theories need not cancel each other out. It is highly likely that, even if a population of Europeans did make it across the ice sheet of the North Atlantic, Siberians were making the journey from their side of the continent too.

Edited July 4, 2008 by Northern Neil

[ASCLEPIADES]

Please forgive me, but I just can't see how can anyone get the proposed European origin conclusion from the presented findings, even if validated.

 

Comments on this thread debate some possible explanations:

 

http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8546

 

however, Scientific theories need not cancel each other out. It is highly likely that, even if a population of Europeans did make it across the ice sheet of the North Atlantic, Siberians were making the journey from their side of the continent too.

Salve NN et gratiam habeo for reminding us that previous thread.

Anyhow, I think we're here trying to compare quite different works.

 

I think Beringias's existence is accepted as a proven fact by now. The question shouldn't be IF humans migrate across Beringia, but WHEN and HOW.

There have been many reports on stratigraphical and radiocarbon dating of human presence long before the Clovis period (circa 11,000 years ago) all across the American Continent, but most of them lack direct human skeletons dating, like the Monteverde site at Chile (14,500 years) and some skulls from the National Museum of Anthropology collection in Mexico (13,000 years).

At 28,000 years, Dr. Jacques Cinq-Mars doubles those figures, even if his dating comes from a SIC: " chipped mammoth bone that appeared to have been fashioned into a small harpoon point".

Pretty hard evidence from where I am, but I still think Clovis arrowheads and related findings point to a considerable expansion of the Continent's human populations 11,000 years ago, probably including one or many migrations, even if not the first one (?).

 

Of course, alternative theories didn't cancel each other; but I don't think Dr. Ron Janke has yet any structured theory at all. What his field findings suggest is that nowadays north-eastern United States (Kankakee Sand Islands in Lake Michigan) may have been not so frozen after all 14,500-15,000 years ago. Not a word about any possible mechanism for crossing the Ocean.

Even if there were any similarities between arrowheads found on both sides of the Atlantic that are not better explained by simple convergent evolution, a longer Eurasia/Beringia connection would seem far more plausible to me.

Edited July 4, 2008 by ASCLEPIADES