Nephele Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Teach only "both"? The problem with that is that there are numerous creation myths from numerous religions. Everyone knows the world was created when the Egyptian god Atum got lonely and masturbated on himself. This is what we should be teaching to our kids, it would lead to better morals. Right on! Especially since Sarah Palin is so opposed to our public schools' Health Education classes teaching about birth control and use of condoms. Palin ought to approve of school-promoted masturbation, then, as a form of abstinence from sexual partnering. (Regardless, I think the proposal might make her ill...) -- Nephele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursus Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Rudy Giuliani... Other than looking like a hero when the trade center was destroyed by Islamic lunatics, what's this guy really done? Considering his social policies, I can't figure out why this guy is a Republican, though he does appear to support conservative economic policy. He is clearly a moderate candidate and would have a chance to win in the general election by taking votes from both parties, but it will be near impossible for him to get the Republican nomination. He has baggage issues with family history and health problems. Also, his name is hard for me to spell for some reason, so screw him. He used to be a Democrat, actually, until changing sides to get a job in the Reagan administration. He was indeed moderate on some issues like gay marriage and such, but I don't think you can be a socially conservative Republican and get elected in a major city in the Mid Atlantic. Guiliani was a law and order Republican. That is the wing of the party I used to belong to as well. While not living in NYC, from outward appearances it appears crime dropped dramatically simply because it wasn't tolerated. Personally I would have voted for G. At least I think he would have made an excellent VP ... popular inside the country and out, and a symbol of American resolve in the face of Jihadist attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustus Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) There was a Vice Presidential debate last evening, Thursday October 2nd between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin; both were themselves, meaning not caricatures of themselves, contrived, nor pretending to be something they aren't. The one word I would use to describe Joe Biden would be "negative" At times he appeared "smug", almost sniggering in his impatience, and with those raised eyebrows he looked a little like a Klingan (from Star Trek; no offense intended to "Klingan"). His face was the most animated. The one for Sarah Palin would be "positive" She also appeared personable and friendly She mostly smiled, but at times it looked a little forced. Joe Biden mentioned lots of "procedural votes" that McCain had made as proof of duplicity, and somehow Palin was supposed to respond to those, but that is impossible to do. But she simply smiled, and her smile was her best answer. Edited October 3, 2008 by Faustus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmo Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 A transcript of the debate can be found here: http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/03/ame...-transcript.php but the smiles of the former beauty queen can not be seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDickey Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 (edited) Well, I voted today (I always vote). And because I like neither Obama nor McCain, I decided to participate primarily in local elections. For President of the United States, however, I chose to write someone in. Who, you might ask? Well, I wrote in Publius Scipio Africanus (yes, I am serious; I really did it). Although I take elections and politics extremely seriously, I couldn't bring myself to vote for A because I dislike B--I caution against protest votes; I think it could be dangerous. And the only other option on our ticket--I'm in Indiana--was Bob Barr running as a Libertarian. He's an idiot, so I didn't vote for him. Edited November 4, 2008 by DDickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephele Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 I caution against protest votes; I think it could be dangerous. The possibility of Palin becoming President is scary danger enough for me. Her people let prank calls get through to her. Audette said Palin was among the easiest celebrities they've been able to reach by phone, and one of the least skeptical, who answered questions for several minutes. "She was as gullible as Britney Spears," he said. Picture some prankster calling President Palin (should McCain kick it), identifying himself as Putin, and saying "The missiles have been launched!" Nah, maybe not. But I decided to go Joebama. -- Nephele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus Pilus Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Notwithstanding the potential disaster that the twit from Alaska might be, presuming she were actually to ever see the office of president, my very realistic fear is the unification of the Executive, Legislative (Senate and House) and Judicial (4 of 9 judges currently lean left with 5 justices at age 70+) of government under far left idealism (Obama, Reid, Pelosi, etc.). I fear for the punishment of hard work and enthusiastic personal goals in the work environment while lesser ethics are rewarded. I fear the collapse of small business employment under the weight of hefty tax burdens. I fear for a return to Carter defeatism. While I understand the tendency to vote away from the unpopularity of Bush, I'm afraid that we are ultimately punishing ourselves in attempt to punish him. I hope I'm wrong, for the well-being of all hard-working Americans who highly value personal and family responsibility over government empowerment. Bush is gone as of January, 2009. I fear what's left of our constitution (that he didn't attempt to circumvent himself) will go with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephele Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Despite concerns and misgivings regarding both Obama and McCain, this has got to be one of the most exciting elections our nation has ever seen. I'm working late tonight, but I find myself obsessively logging onto the 'net every few minutes to see how the race is proceeding. Obama is currently leading with 81 electoral votes, having taken what appears to be 9 states. McCain has 39 electoral votes with what appears to be 5 states. It looks like Obama has just taken New Hampshire -- disappointing news for McCain's daughter Meghan, who had vowed to get a "Live Free or Die" tattoo if her daddy took that state. -- Nephele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCLEPIADES Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Salve, Amici President elect Barack Obama won by landslide (at least 338 electoral votes). The Democratic party controls both the Senate and the House. May God bless the United States of America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludovicus Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 A battle has been won and a healing begun. Let's see what we can do with it. Personally, I feel that for the first time in a long time, here in the US,we have a person with the intelligence and vision to occupy the presidency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viggen Posted November 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 ..from my perspective... ..the Reps. had now 8 years time to break the world economy, bend the american constitution, and to spread fear and angst around the world, it was time for a change... ...but only time will tell if the shitload of work that lies ahead of the new president can and will be done... ...but for now, cheers and congrats to the USA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvadius Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 (edited) I have to admit that in my view January 2009 cannot come soon enough and is at least 4 years if not 8 overdue. Most electoral systems are flawed but I somehow feel that a campaign trail and 'Democratic' process that takes up the best part of 2 years is way too long. I much prefer the UK system of a six week campaigning period and effectively immediate transfer of power after the election. Having said that the right man from the final list does appear to have been elected and the sooner he is in post the better, not just for America but the World at large. Hopefully he will make one of his priorities reining back on the increasingly overstepping of international law and blatant abuse of military power against everyone (including both friendly and non-aligned powers) that has apparently become standard American foreign policy. BTW a point of information the new US president may be many things but from a British perspective his views are more what would be considered liberal than socialist. To us most American politicians would be categorised as right of centre Melvadius Edited November 5, 2008 by Melvadius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Augusta Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 I've not been following the campaign avidly, I must admit, but I was rooting for Obama. So - congrats to the USA for choosing the best man for the job. We in England have heaved a huge sigh of relief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDickey Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 A battle has been won and a healing begun. Let's see what we can do with it. Personally, I feel that for the first time in a long time, here in the US,we have a person with the intelligence and vision to occupy the presidency. What vision are you talking about? Obama has said nothing about anything. He has refused to address issues head on; he says nothing. He speaks only in vague talking points. If he was any more vacuous he would be transparent. As a side rant: I didn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faustus Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Not wishing to detract from the euphoria of the moment many of us feel but a few days ago candidate Obama may have shown his true feelings about John McCain. This is a replay of the same gesture he showed to Hillary Clinton which was also was caught BY the all seeing eye of the camera. At the time, on that occasion, the audience laughed. Is this intentional? Is it a Freudian slip? Or is it just a meaningless coincidence that is so common amongst us all that none of us would guard against it being misunderstood? Any one who makes speaches knows that hand movements around the face are, to say the least distracting, and revealing. In this scene, he has already "wiped" his face with his other fingers so this indelicate single finger "flick" at the least seems redundant. One last question: if it was a purposeful swipe at McCain, was it deserved? LOOK HERE As a student of history I personally believe that It's understood that "great people" (and those who command public audiences) do not allow small personal distractions to perturb them. And in that regard I noticed in Sarah Palin's first public speach that when a lock of her hair got in between her glasses and her eye, she ignored it all through her speech until there was a momentary lapse when she could make an adjustment, even though her breath caused it to be blown about distractingly for the first full five minutes. Noble (noble herein defined as "those who do the right thing") people in positions of public importance realize that if small things like a bit of "spittle" on the lip cannot be duly ignored, then the implication may be understood by observers that the subject can be perturbed by the smallest of things. As suggested proof of that concept I once saw the Queen of England with a HOUSE FLY crawling around on her face while she sat in public audience, completely ignore it until it eventually flew away. That seems to say something about "self discipline". I find that manipulation of the fingers to require awkward movements at best, and if it is what it appears to be, I find it to be a "thuggish" gesture by a public official soon to be in a position of almost supreme power. Another example of "thuggish behavior" at a polling place in Philadelphia.... _______________ FAUSTUS (Eric Hoffer's P.S.M) LACK of self awareness renders us transparent. A soul that knows itself is opaque; like Adam after he ate from the tree of knowledge it uses words as fig leaves to cover its nakedness and shame. We can see through others only when we can see through ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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