Plebs, Patricii et Equites

[P.Clodius]

Democracy was in no way part of the roman system of government.

Given the number of raw mistakes you make ...

OK can't wait to be 'educated' on the "cesspool of Romulus"!

Edited September 21, 2007 by P.Clodius

[ASCLEPIADES]

I'll start a new thread on this since it's a perennial topic of debate that comes up whenever we talk about Sulla, Caesar, Augustus, and Tiberius, each of whom dealt major blows to the chief democratic elements in the classical republican system (i.e., the powers of the tribunes, the freedom of contiones, and the election of magistrates).

(Emphasis it's mine).

 

I think this would be an excellent opportunity to discuss a couple of things about the contiones. They seem to be cardinal to F. Millar's conception of the Roman Republican system, and they are included in one of your six Late-Republican (or maybe Triumviral) stereotypical points.

 

You see, it's not easy to read online Millar's critical works; I have read some from his "disciples", like Morstein-Marx and Pina Polo, but they appear not to be as true believers as you are. Smith's Dictionary is clearly not enough.

 

It's notorious that in all UNRV site, the not-so-rare references to contio or contiones are almost your monopoly, with the interesting exception of a still unanswered long question by Schappes here.

Edited September 21, 2007 by ASCLEPIADES

[M. Porcius Cato]

You see, it's not easy to read online Millar's critical works; I have read some from his "disciples", like Morstein-Marx and Pina Polo, but they appear not to be as true believers as you are.

I really like Morstein-Marx, who is a student of Erich S. Gruen, my top favorite historian of the Roman republic. I'd not say that I was a disciple of Millar so much we both are disciples of Polybius.

 

It's notorious that in all UNRV site, the not-so-rare references to contio or contiones are almost your monopoly, with the interesting exception of a still unanswered long question by Schappes here.

Thanks for pointing that out.