amandag Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 my father recently passed away and me and my brothers are going to get matching tattoos for him and we wanted to have "to my father" translated into latin. if anyone could help that would be AWESOME b/c this will be my first (and only) tattoo and i don't want to get the wrong writing plastered on my body forever. also, i noticed that mostly people say pater for father but i did some research and found that patris also means father...what's the difference? thanks so much if anyone can help...i dont really know how to use this website thing so if u could email me at agabriel@gwu.edu that would be AMAZING. sincerely-amanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentium Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 my father recently passed away and me and my brothers are going to get matching tattoos for him and we wanted to have "to my father" translated into latin. if anyone could help that would be AWESOME b/c this will be my first (and only) tattoo and i don't want to get the wrong writing plastered on my body forever. also, i noticed that mostly people say pater for father but i did some research and found that patris also means father...what's the difference? thanks so much if anyone can help...i dont really know how to use this website thing so if u could email me at agabriel@gwu.edu that would be AMAZING. sincerely-amanda Latin is a flexive language, which means the "function" of the words is in the case desinences. The cases are Nominativus, Genitivus, Dativus, Accusativus, Vocativus, Ablativus (Locativus is often left out). These desinences also vary according to the declination, latin has 5. The name (substantivus) pater belongs to the 3rd declination. Pater is the nominativus (singularis), Patr-is is the Genitivus, Patr-i the Dativus, Patr-em the Accusativus, etc. "To my" (father) can be expressed with the Dativus, whose desinence in this case is -i, so the word you need is "Patri". This is a very short and incomplete explanation of why you need Patri instead of Patris or Pater. I don't know if you meant something like "in memory/honour of my father", in that case it would be "In memoriam/honorem patris mei". I hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandag Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 my father recently passed away and me and my brothers are going to get matching tattoos for him and we wanted to have "to my father" translated into latin. if anyone could help that would be AWESOME b/c this will be my first (and only) tattoo and i don't want to get the wrong writing plastered on my body forever. also, i noticed that mostly people say pater for father but i did some research and found that patris also means father...what's the difference? thanks so much if anyone can help...i dont really know how to use this website thing so if u could email me at agabriel@gwu.edu that would be AMAZING. sincerely-amanda Latin is a flexive language, which means the "function" of the words is in the case desinences. The cases are Nominativus, Genitivus, Dativus, Accusativus, Vocativus, Ablativus (Locativus is often left out). These desinences also vary according to the declination, latin has 5. The name (substantivus) pater belongs to the 3rd declination. Pater is the nominativus (singularis), Patr-is is the Genitivus, Patr-i the Dativus, Patr-em the Accusativus, etc. "To my" (father) can be expressed with the Dativus, whose desinence in this case is -i, so the word you need is "Patri". This is a very short and incomplete explanation of why you need Patri instead of Patris or Pater. I don't know if you meant something like "in memory/honour of my father", in that case it would be "In memoriam/honorem patris mei". I hope this helps. ya that helps a lot cuz i kinda understand it now...but we kinda wanna say it like it's a gift/tribute to our dad...so how would u directly translate "to my father"...like im getting this tattoo as a gift "to my father" .... or maybe like "to my dad" or "to my daddy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentium Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 ya that helps a lot cuz i kinda understand it now...but we kinda wanna say it like it's a gift/tribute to our dad...so how would u directly translate "to my father"...like im getting this tattoo as a gift "to my father" .... or maybe like "to my dad" or "to my daddy" In this case I would say "Pro amore patris mei" (which -approximately- sounds like "for the love of my father", but I'm not a native speaker of English so I think someone else will translate this properly), or simply "Pro patre meo" (for my father), as you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandag Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 ya that helps a lot cuz i kinda understand it now...but we kinda wanna say it like it's a gift/tribute to our dad...so how would u directly translate "to my father"...like im getting this tattoo as a gift "to my father" .... or maybe like "to my dad" or "to my daddy" In this case I would say "Pro amore patris mei" (which -approximately- sounds like "for the love of my father", but I'm not a native speaker of English so I think someone else will translate this properly), or simply "Pro patre meo" (for my father), as you said. thank you so much u really helped me out a lot and ill talk to my brothers about what they want for our tattoo...now it will really make sense and im totally gonna get it next week..THANKS A BUNCH AGAIN!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASCLEPIADES Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Salve, guys and Ladies. My condolences, A. PS: That was a superb explanation, S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandag Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Salve, guys and Ladies. My condolences, A. PS: That was a superb explanation, S. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentium Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 ya that helps a lot cuz i kinda understand it now...but we kinda wanna say it like it's a gift/tribute to our dad...so how would u directly translate "to my father"...like im getting this tattoo as a gift "to my father" .... or maybe like "to my dad" or "to my daddy" In this case I would say "Pro amore patris mei" (which -approximately- sounds like "for the love of my father", but I'm not a native speaker of English so I think someone else will translate this properly), or simply "Pro patre meo" (for my father), as you said. thank you so much u really helped me out a lot and ill talk to my brothers about what they want for our tattoo...now it will really make sense and im totally gonna get it next week..THANKS A BUNCH AGAIN!!! I'm glad I could help, whether to choose simple dativus or ad patrem or the forms with pro is a question of subtle nuances which, unfortunately, I am not able to translate into English, but in the end they all mean more or less the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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