Byzantium= Eastern Roman empire?

[Fedor]

So i was kind of having a debate about Rome, Byzantium or the Eastern Roman Empire and the relation to history on a website called civfanactics.com-----Civilization 4-- Its a pc game that is turn based strategy that allows us to play as 24 civilizations in a epic game which i love..... to reshape history. So a new expansion is coming out and they are adding the "Byzantines". Do you think they should be in the expansion? We already have Rome (which is what i use all the time) and the Greeks.

 

Are the Byzantines a different civilization from the Eastern Roman empire? I always thought as the "Byzantines" as the Eastern Roman empire and was the continuation of Rome and thought it as more of the same than different.

 

So i just want some opinions on the correct date of the roman civilization date in which it expired. My opinion is that it fell at 1453AD not 476AD, but again I'm new and i want opinions from people on this very cool website about my favorite empire. Oh.... and the leader of the "Byzantines" is Justinian in the expansion for civ4.

 

link-----

 

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=223954

Edited May 26, 2007 by Fedor

[Fedor]

Here is the intro to Civilization 4 enjoy!!!! But i would like some opinions on my question's above.Thanks......

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBV1L4J4b2E

 

The first expansion- civ4 warlords intro. second expansion comes out in july.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4p1CMO2xNU

Edited May 26, 2007 by Fedor

[Segestan]

The Byzantines were a separate civilization from what was

[FLavius Valerius Constantinus]

The Eastern Roman Empire has always been the Roman Empire. The Byzantine Empire never really existed, the Greeks in the East called themselves Roman, not Byzantium.

 

If you search the forum, you would find many good threads on the subject you seek.

Edited May 26, 2007 by FLavius Valerius Constantinus

[Fedor]

Segestan----

 

But this man has a different view i think. Fast forward to 35 mins into the documentary.

It's a documentary about the eastern roman empire or byzantium.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...amp;q=byzantium

Edited May 26, 2007 by Fedor

[FLavius Valerius Constantinus]

Link to thread

 

Here's the thread you want.

[Fedor]

Link to thread

 

Here's the thread you want.

Thanks, i read it all like 5 hours ago. I took what you said in that forum and used it for the debate on civfanatics.com.

Don't worry i gave you all the credit, b/c it was so well said about this subject. In a game called civilization 4 (i gave links above if you are interested) they are making a new expansion and adding in the byzantines. I did not agree that they should be in the game b/c i consider them the eastern roman empire. But many people do not agree with my opinion on that forum. They think it's a totally different empire and i was kind of flamed with that opinion.

 

Here is the link if you are interested, its on page 3-- give it a read if you are interested. My name is Titus on that forum.

 

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.p...3954&page=3

Edited May 26, 2007 by Fedor

[Fedor]

Here is some funny links with civilization 4. The first link includes Genghis Khan, George Bush and Tony Blair in a teleconference.

 

Here is a teleconference with George Bush, Tony Blair and Hannibal.

 

 

Bush, Blair and The who. Civ 4 Warlords Teleconference 2- The Who

 

 

Here is a teleconference with George Bush, Tony Blair and Ragnar Lodbrok. It's just too funny with these teleconferences.

 

Civilization 4 conquest victory movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDPXNuvMpMM...ted&search=

Edited May 27, 2007 by Fedor

[Primus Pilus]

Moved this to off-topic as it is much more about civ 4 than the extended Roman Empire.