Nephele Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 BTW, the translation on the Project Gutenberg page seems to be a bowdlerized Cicero. Cac! Ah well. You get what you pay for... -- Nephele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theilian Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Was anyone else disappointed that Tiro was so ugly in the episode? I first noticed in the 2X02 episode, but thought that it couldn't possibly Tiro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Porcius Cato Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Was anyone else disappointed that Tiro was so ugly in the episode? I first noticed in the 2X02 episode, but thought that it couldn't possibly Tiro. You mean, Tiro, the hand-servant of Cicero? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theilian Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 (edited) Was anyone else disappointed that Tiro was so ugly in the episode? I first noticed in the 2X02 episode, but thought that it couldn't possibly Tiro. You mean, Tiro, the hand-servant of Cicero? Yes. The bald guy who's riding together with Cicero. About second philippic, there is more web-friendly version here, but I think it's same text. Edited January 31, 2007 by theilian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia C Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Yeah, chronologically, it seems they skipped Cicero's whole defiant stand against Antonius. The very reason that Cicero is still considered--to this day--the defender of the Republic is because he rose to the occasion to be its greatest champion. I would have much rather seen less plotting with Duro and more Cicero in this episode. To name the entire episode after him and then dedicate a few minutes at the end (where Cicero himself is running away) doesn't give him his due credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theilian Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 [quote name='Julia C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantagathus Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Do we know with certainty that Duro is a slave? Seems this was cleared up in the next episode... He seems to have been hired off the street by Atia's slave cause he wanted to stick it to him (as shown in this episode...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Octavius Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 (edited) Is there anywhere where the Phillipics can be found online? I was looking for them in the University library and couldn't find them, nor could I find them in a quick search on the internet. If the real things are as funny as the Rome version they would be an interesting read. This site may be helpful. It is in both Latin and English. Hope that MPC approves (seriously). http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext...ech=1:section=1 I can't remember where I read it, but I thought that one of the Philippics (3rd?) was not read to the Senate, but rather sent in a letter to Tullio(?). Edited February 6, 2007 by Gaius Octavius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Porcius Cato Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 The Second Philippic was a written response to Antony's written charges that Cicero had been behind the deaths of Caesar and Clodius. Some of the subsequent Philippics were delivered directly to the people in a contio, such as when the tribunes summoned Cicero to produce reports on the situation in Mutina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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