DecimusCaesar Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 I was reading through Sumerian King lists recently when I came across an interesting anecdote; which I wonder might be true or not. According to the list, one of the queen's of Sumeria was a woman called Kubaba of Caracemish. She might have been a historical personage; a woman who was a tavern owner who later became queen of a city-state. Then again she might equally be a mythical figure, a goddess, as the tablets records that she reigned for a hundred years. She was the third ruler of the dynasty of Kish (Early Dynastic III period). During the later Hurrian/early Hittite era she became associated with the city of Caracemish, becoming its patron goddess. Later on, after the fall of the Hittite Empire she became a prominent goddess in Anatolia- until she was adopted by the Phrygians, becoming known as Kebele. It was in the periods afterwards, that her cult came to Rome after the Sibylline prophecy demanded it in 204 BC. It remained a restricted cult, as the Romans were never fond of the rites, which included castration and self-flaggellation. The cult was shown in the first episode of Rome, where Atia visited the shrine in order to bring luck to Octavian before he set off to Gaul. Could the cult of Cybele have its origins in an ancient Sumerian tavern owner? Or is this all just speculation? It would be strange to believe that the Romans built a shrine in London (and all over Europe) to a woman who lived several millennia before their time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantagathus Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 From what I can tell from Mark Munn's abstract Kybele as Kubaba in a Lydo-Phrygian Context found HERE, his argument (which goes against Brixhe & Roller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLavius Valerius Constantinus Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 If anyone is interested in some really nice scholarly pictures of her, here's the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantagathus Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 If anyone is interested in some really nice scholarly pictures of her, here's the link See! a big, fat female figure flanked by animals (Cybele) has very little in common with a regal, thin woman who typically held two mirrors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecimusCaesar Posted December 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 Thanks for the information Pantagathus. I thought there was something suspicious about this claim as it was not backed up with referances, like other information in the text. Thanks for the links FVC and Pantagathus, there are good photographs there. You're right about the Atia scene, that was Magna Mater not Cybele. Does anyone remember which scene contained the worship of Cybele? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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