Pertinax Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) Welcome Ti Coruncanius, and well done with those nominations, given that our first rule was one nomination per member can you give a reason for either of these to take precedence over the other? if you find it too painful to decide I will make the call Edited December 3, 2005 by Pertinax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ti. Coruncanius Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Hi Pertinax! Glad you like the nominations. As for which one to go on your list, I really can't say. I usually just deal out the options and let people pick their favorite. So take your pick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pertinax Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Ok Marcellinus' is on the list-this shows my bias toward information from the Imperial period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantagathus Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 In an effort to resusitate this thread, I'm going to cheat and offer another... It would be quite excellent if the Sacred Kistai (chest) containing the Ta Hiera ('sacred things') of the Eleusian Mysteries was actually found... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princeps Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) There are so many to choose from, I'd say- Tacitus' lost works (The Germanic wars, Nero etc) The Collosus, or the statue of Nero from the Golden house Constantine's sarcophagus, complete with 12 apostles - http://www.biblicalarcheology.net/Diggings...7sPorphyry.html Edited January 18, 2006 by Viggen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pertinax Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 In an effort to resusitate this thread, I'm going to cheat and offer another... It would be quite excellent if the Sacred Kistai (chest) containing the Ta Hiera ('sacred things') of the Eleusian Mysteries was actually found... I accept this noble activity-please dont neglect Favonius' thread also. There are so many to choose from, I'd say- Tacitus' lost works (The Germanic wars, Nero etc) The Collosus, or the statue of Nero from the Golden house Constantine's sarcophagus, complete with 12 apostles - http://www.biblicalarcheology.net/Diggings...;sPorphyry.html As you named Tacitus first Ill add that to the list! unless you have a clear favourite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princeps Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 (edited) Tacitus' lost works (The Germanic wars, Nero etc)The Collosus, or the statue of Nero from the Golden house Constantine's sarcophagus, complete with 12 apostles - http://www.biblicalarcheology.net/Diggings...;sPorphyry.html As you named Tacitus first Ill add that to the list! unless you have a clear favourite. I'll pick the Collosus of Rhodes for mine(it was one of the seven wonders after all ). Edited December 11, 2005 by Princeps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sextus Roscius Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Has no one said the Sybil books from the oracle at Cumae that were suppose to tell the future of Rome that were only consulted in times of dire peril. Its a shame, when the Romans finaly bought them from the Oracle, most of them were already gone. They were kept under the temple of saturn but were unfortunatly destroyed durring a fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pertinax Posted December 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Has no one said the Sybil books from the oracle at Cumae that were suppose to tell the future of Rome that were only consulted in times of dire peril. Its a shame, when the Romans finaly bought them from the Oracle, most of them were already gone. They were kept under the temple of saturn but were unfortunatly destroyed durring a fire. Somewhere in the three inter related threads they have been mentioned , but I will add them to this list.Pl;ease do not worry at this stage if you consider some things to be in the "wrong " place , we willl have learned debate about this if we move towards a complete top twenty. Dont forget the other two associated lists! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Porcius Cato Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 I'll second the nomination for the lost works of Aristotle. Last Europe re-discovered Aristotle (thanks to Albertus Magnus), Europe started hard and fast upon the renaissance. Who knows what a second round of Aristotle could do? Perhaps wake her from her relativist slumber? But, since I'm only seconding Aristotle, I still get one true nomination--Cicero's Pro Cato, which has been totally lost and would help set the record straight on why "Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa Catoni--The conquering cause pleased the gods but the conquered cause pleased Cato" (Lucan, Pharsalia). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantagathus Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 In an effort to resusitate this thread, I'm going to cheat and offer another... It would be quite excellent if the Sacred Kistai (chest) containing the Ta Hiera ('sacred things') of the Eleusian Mysteries was actually found... To add my justification: "For it appears to me that among the many exceptional and divine things your Athens has produced and contributed to human life, nothing is better than those Mysteries. For by means of them we have been transformed from a rough and savage way of life to the state of humanity, and have been civilized. Just as they are called initiations, so in actual fact we have learned from them the fundamentals of life, and have grasped the basis not only for living with joy but also for dying with a better hope..." - Marcus, in Cicero, De leibus, 2.14.36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pertinax Posted December 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 (edited) I'll second the nomination for the lost works of Aristotle. Last Europe re-discovered Aristotle (thanks to Albertus Magnus), Europe started hard and fast upon the renaissance. Who knows what a second round of Aristotle could do? Perhaps wake her from her relativist slumber? But, since I'm only seconding Aristotle, I still get one true nomination--Cicero's Pro Cato, which has been totally lost and would help set the record straight on why "Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa Catoni--The conquering cause pleased the gods but the conquered cause pleased Cato" (Lucan, Pharsalia). Ah good, a perceptive "modern" inclusion if I dare say so another very useful suggestion .And nice throwaway line on relatavism! Pantagathus' reasoning gives us a solid justification for what is overlooked as a critical spiritual/cultural artifact. Edited December 11, 2005 by Pertinax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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