caesar novus Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 (edited) Quote for each of the 7 best ancient roman generals or admirals, compose a haiku about their qualities Julius Caesar Swift as the eagle, Conquering lands, forging new Rome— Dictator’s sharp blade. Scipio Africanus Carthage falls to dust, Strategist with steady hand— Rome’s savior ascends. Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus Three triumphs he claimed, Yet shadows of Caesar grew— Fate’s tide turned unkind. Gaius Marius Reformer of steel, Legions reborn through his will— Rome’s shield, strong and true. Lucius Cornelius Sulla Lion of the Senate, Blood and power marked his reign— Dictator’s cold gaze. Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa Sea’s master, steadfast, Actium’s waves bowed to him— Augustus’ strong arm. Belisarius (Byzantine, but inspired by Roman tradition) Last light of old Rome, Eagle’s wings in twilight skies— Glory fades, yet burns. Edited February 2 by caesar novus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesar novus Posted February 6 Author Report Share Posted February 6 I just noticed the eminent Adrian Goldsworthy covers a similar list of top generals: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guidoLaMoto Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 ErIt seems to me that any list of best military strategists should include Marcus Atilius Regulus & Lucius Manlius Vulso, commanders of Rome's first naval fleet, who defeated the Carthaginian fleet, already the dominant naval power in the Mediterranean for a couple centuries.....a bigger upset than the Jets (with the help of The Mafia) beating the Colts in Superbowl III. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cape_Ecnomus#:~:text=The Battle of Cape Ecnomus,(264–241 BC). "AI" is a deceptive term no doubt devised by a publicist as clever as the real estate agents who devised the names Mount Prospect or Arlington Heights for new housing subdivisions of flat as a pancake farmland near Chicago's O'Hare Airport. It should be called "Pre-Planned, Biased Summary of Internet Entries." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caesar novus Posted February 8 Author Report Share Posted February 8 (edited) I was more interested in how it reasoned to form haikus rather than which people chosen. And interested in Adrian's rich details for them. I just reran the search with explanations turned on, and yes it was based on a literal acceptance of 10 web pages. I think I could tell it to be skeptical and not rely on compilation lists, but might then need to get behind book paywalls. Supposedly it sneaked past entire NYT archive paywall, and that influence may be why it once made a woke attack against an innocent question of mine. I used to be skeptical against this mindless pattern-matching neural network approach, but found they can discover the rules of logic without being taught. That's why I use the R1 version of deepseek, which stands for reasoning. As for learning facts, deepseek is famous in only spending a few million in training vs a hundred+ million for competitors, yet getting similar results. Assimilating facts is costly but straightforward. Complex reasoning is badly done by humans, and seems ripe for automation. If you can prove reasoning capability thru explanations, then you might justify more investment for loading in facts. P.S. A crippled (lite) version of Chinese deepseek can be downloaded to run on laptops, but there is a U.S. law proposing 20 years of prison for that (for espionage). I showed how to run the powerful web version in a topic something like 5 worst Roman emperors. Excerpt of (a shallow) deepseek explanation: Quote I need to check if these names are consistently highlighted as top commanders. Scipio and Caesar are definitely top. Pompey, Sulla, Agrippa, Trajan are all in multiple lists. Aurelian is mentioned in webpages 4 and 5 for reuniting the empire. Fabius Maximus is in 4 and 6 for his strategy against Hannibal. Germanicus in 3 and 6. Agricola in 1, 3, 5. Belisarius in 6, but he's Byzantine, so maybe the user wants strictly ancient Roman? The user specified "ancient Roman," which could include Eastern Roman/Byzantine, but some might consider that separate. However, Belisarius is listed in webpage 6 as a Roman general in the Byzantine era, so maybe include him. Marius is in 3,4,6,9. Constantine is in webpage 1 and 5. Edited February 8 by caesar novus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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