The Glory of the Spear : The Spear of Destiny : The Holy Lance : The Spear of Longinus

[E. I.Smith]

To better understand Roman might, and Christian theology across all denominations, you must understand the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, and how it concluded. As Jesus Christ was hanging from the cross dying and breathing his last breath, at some point the Roman guard Longinus believed that Christ was taken too long to die. Christ was very likely a vibrant and healthy fellow seeing as how much of his ministry was spent traveling on foot from town to town. Jesus hung from the cross and bloody and bruised from his beating at the hands of the Romans, and to hasten his death a Roman guard named Longinus raised his spear, steadied himself, and thrust the spear through Jesus's side and the blade punctured Jesus's heart causing a massive wound; the bleeding from that wound gushed out Jesus, yielding large quantities of blood and water.

Since then, there has been research, discovery, and postulations as to the Spear's journey to its present location. The Spear of Destiny is presently in the Weltliches Schatzkammer Museum in Vienna, Austria. In the book, " The Spear of Destiny " by Trevor Ravenscroft, we see the following description. ' An account of the legendary spear which pierced the side of Christ which has been invested with occult powers. It tells the story of the chain of men who possessed the spear, from Herod to Adolf Hitler, and how they sought to change the face of history by wielding its good and evil powers. '

 

Alternatively, we see the history of the Spear as described in ' The Spear of Destiny ' by M.E. Brines, as follows: ' The Spear of Destiny – 10,000 word supernatural alternate history novella -- Seeking bloodthirsty revenge for the death of his brother in World War II, young seminary student Stuart Mackenzie abandons his theological studies to become an agent behind the enemy lines where he discovers a diabolical Nazi scheme to employ black magic as a secret weapon on a vast scale powered by millions of human sacrifices. What chance will the mundane weapons of the Allied powers have against ancient magic and an artifact said to have slain the very Son of God? '

 

The books included in this post are ultimately narratives about the occult powers that lie in The Spear of Destiny, the weapon that was used by the Roman guard Longinus to stab the philosopher, Jesus Christ, as he hung from the cross during his crucifixion.

 

[caldrail]

There is so much to say about this, not least the lack of evidence for Jesus. But regarding the spear - why a spear? Surely it would have been a pilum? The transposition, as always, is medieval. During the Second Siege of Antioch in 1098, the desperate crusaders were told by a priest named Peter Bartholomew that the 'Holy Lance' would be found. They found such a weapon, and were inspired to continue. Lance? A spear was said to be among relics held in Constantinople. It doesn't take a leap of imagination to see that this is another example of medieval hypocrisy regarding Christianity.

However, one should be wary of accepting the gospels as history. They were after religious stories written by people other than the saints normally attributed. The four gospels we have as canon today first become forwarded around 160 (not the Council of Nicaea in 325 as normally stated) but please realise that there may have been as many as fifty of them, all diverse, and thus unreliable as accounts.

Incidentially the description you made of Jesus receiving a thrust into the heart isn't something I've heard before and would appear to be a hyped up version of the tale, since a bored legionary asked to confirm a crucified victim had died isn't likely to be so symbolically accurate. he would want a reaction, not a drama.

[Novosedoff]

Well, I totally agree with caldrail. The discourse of the spear just like the discourse of the shroud of Turin seems nothing more but stupid Christian propaganda, pardon my words.

What I find risible is that the name of Jesus killer-centurion Longin has become widely popular amongst Russian Orthodox clergy. The story of Longin who in his later life became a devoted Christian himself  (perhaps like anybody who had ever had any connection to our all-mighty Lord Jesus) is now inspiring Russian young priesthood to change their last names to look more like Jesus killers. For reference below are a few examples: 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longin_von_Klin

https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longhin_Jar

 

[Novosedoff]

Another conspiracy theory from Turkish travel agent waiting for more idiot tourists from Europe:
https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends-asia/st-pauls-bible-0015746