In the Past were Eastern Religions more Tolerant of LBGT than Abrahami

[Pisces Axxxxx]

I notice theres a trend in the West esp. Europe.

 

Westerners now bash the Abrahamic religion esp. the Roman Catholic Church. They attack the Abrahamic Faiths for their bigotry and hatred towards the LBGT (esp. Homosexuals). They indeed now show a bias towards Eastern Religions-especially Buddhism-for their incredible accepting tolerance and openness towards the LBGT.

 

In their eyes, Buddhism and other Eastern religions are more humane because they don't (at least in their view) have a single trace of anti-LBGT.

 

In fact I remember in a chat room a Thai girl said she was Atheist but her family were Buddhists. A Portuguese man also in the chat room commented, saying that "Buddhism is the way to go". Prior to this chat in an earlier chat that took place about 5 months earlier, this same Portuguese guy took part in an anti-Catholic bashing discussion in the chatroom and he even told a guy who posted anti-Catholic things "Yes Preach". In his view Catholicism was all evil and one of the reasons I remember had to do with their intolerance towards LBGT (he also holds anegative opinion of Americans because of our we are not open of LBGT as in Europe).

 

I don't know much about Buddhism nor its history but I'm taking the Western POV witha big grain of salt. Mainl because most Westerners I've met who hate the Abrahamic Faiths for anti-LBGT intolerance don't really have an understanding of Buddhism outside of popular stereotypes and cliches in the Media. Most of what they know about Buddhism comes from TV Shows and News Talk Shows. ALmost none of them have ever picked up one basic text of Buddhism and read it from start to end, none of them have ever visited a Buddhist Monestary, and not a single of them know anything about Buddhism's backstory and history outside of the basic story of Siddarhata Guatama abandoning all the fortune and his position as King to live a life of Austerity and later develop what we now know as Buddhism.

 

They don't know any Buddhist practicse outside of meditation and chanting.

 

The same can be said about their views on other Eastern Religions they claim that are far mooorrre tolerant towards LBGT than the Abrahamic Faiths ever were such as Shintoiism and Confucianism. They never read any text of this other lesser known Eastern Religions let alone visited a temple.

 

I'm curious what was the reality?

[barca]

I notice theres a trend in the West esp. Europe.

 

Westerners now bash the Abrahamic religion esp. the Roman Catholic Church. They attack the Abrahamic Faiths for their bigotry and hatred towards the LBGT (esp. Homosexuals). They indeed now show a bias towards Eastern Religions-especially Buddhism-for their incredible accepting tolerance and openness towards the LBGT.

 

In their eyes, Buddhism and other Eastern religions are more humane because they don't (at least in their view) have a single trace of anti-LBGT.

 

In fact I remember in a chat room a Thai girl said she was Atheist but her family were Buddhists. A Portuguese man also in the chat room commented, saying that "Buddhism is the way to go". Prior to this chat in an earlier chat that took place about 5 months earlier, this same Portuguese guy took part in an anti-Catholic bashing discussion in the chatroom and he even told a guy who posted anti-Catholic things "Yes Preach". In his view Catholicism was all evil and one of the reasons I remember had to do with their intolerance towards LBGT (he also holds anegative opinion of Americans because of our we are not open of LBGT as in Europe).

 

I don't know much about Buddhism nor its history but I'm taking the Western POV witha big grain of salt. Mainl because most Westerners I've met who hate the Abrahamic Faiths for anti-LBGT intolerance don't really have an understanding of Buddhism outside of popular stereotypes and cliches in the Media. Most of what they know about Buddhism comes from TV Shows and News Talk Shows. ALmost none of them have ever picked up one basic text of Buddhism and read it from start to end, none of them have ever visited a Buddhist Monestary, and not a single of them know anything about Buddhism's backstory and history outside of the basic story of Siddarhata Guatama abandoning all the fortune and his position as King to live a life of Austerity and later develop what we now know as Buddhism.

 

They don't know any Buddhist practicse outside of meditation and chanting.

 

The same can be said about their views on other Eastern Religions they claim that are far mooorrre tolerant towards LBGT than the Abrahamic Faiths ever were such as Shintoiism and Confucianism. They never read any text of this other lesser known Eastern Religions let alone visited a temple.

 

I'm curious what was the reality?

 

Interesting question. I agree that a lot of people are willing to take up a particular religion or philosophy because it is in vogue, but never gaining an in depth understanding. I don't really have an answer.

 

I will say that one of my Hindu friends has told me that in India, they have had to deal with Hindu fundamentalists who as rigid and intolerant as their Western Christian Counterparts.

[Onasander]

You need to seperate 'in the west' from Europe. Europe is the middle east since the lost their status as western under the Nazis. They never intellectually recovered, just jumping from one silly belief to another.

 

1) Most buddhist faiths are Atheistic, they can oftentimes be both, but some Buddhists are theists.

 

2) Parts of western and north central europe suffered a cognitive decline resulting from strict government control, a bewildering presentation of options that make any religion foolish and dogmatic, and from the 1860s-Present a strong emphasis on Hegels religious-state dialectics, adapts of which, by Marxs and Nietzsche were militantly antireligious, thinking society evolved on a basis of faith (the primitive) to rational (socialist atheism).

 

During this period, they tried really, really hard to kill each other off, declaring God was dead, and everyone tried to collect as many venerial diseases as possible, screwing out of wedlock.

 

To remedy this situation, europe built a series of ditches, and put all of its smartest, brightest, and most verile men inside, and anyone trying to climb out was shot for not spending the mandatory life sentence in the hole. Many figured out being in the trenches was better than getting out of them, and so just sat there. They were not dying quickly enough, so they aimed artillary at one another, straight down in the trenches. Many proved to be too clever, and so chemical weapons were added to the artillary to kill people hiding in dug out rooms so they built tanks to drive over the trenches, collapsing the rooms and machine gunning everyone. Everyone said 'Ha ha, you may kill me, but God is already dead', but the people in the noisey tanks couldnt hear the people in the gasmasks saying this, and it just sounded like muffle screams.

 

Unfortunately, all the guys in the trenches impregnated women, and even though the men all died, their babies were born. Once they were born, they all said.'hey, let grow up and kill one another like our dads did'.

 

Everyone.was taught God was Dead and to fuck over their neighbor. And they did. The worst crazy fucks aborted babies, and ethnicities not their own, and marched eberywhere in a effort to kill each other, but especially the Jews, who were pacifists that offered sound financial advice, because Marx and Hitler said so. They were also told by Nietzsche to kill everyone the Marxist liked, and support everyone the Marxist hated, but the Marxist and Nietzscheans were both the same, being hegelians, dressing the same, having similar flags, killing one another in similar ways, etc. America got tired of this shit, and dropped a nuke on a country not even in Europe to get the Europeans to shut up.

 

The Europeans were very upset with Americans, in still loving God and talks about brotherhood and humanity. It was talk that got in the way of killing one another. To makes the Americans happy, the combined Nietzsche and Marxs ideas together, and said 'Not only is God Dead, But the Sun is pissed off and is melting us to death, and it's all Americas fault'. That is the origins of global warming, they worship it instead of God.

 

The Europeans, not allowed to fight in Europe, gave weapons to Brown people everywhere, saying 'God is Dead' and encouraged them to kill one another for Marx-Nietzsche. Then when all the brown men died, they blamed America, and said africa was hot because of global warming, and America caused it. However, the africans knew the Europeans well enough, and told them to go screw themselves, and now they all believe in God. In Asia, the Europeans said the same, but the Asians informed the Europeans that buddha already killed God, and they already knew how to kill themselves better in wars. This impressed the Europeans, and people like the Dutch started transforming their windmills into Stupas, smoking pot, and neglecting their dykes.

 

All the European empires collapsed, because the were quitters. They became so convinced they were all going to die they built a underground seed vault, and put seeds in it because America with its globalizing global warming would kill all the bees, and prevent photosynthesis. Some countries like sweden tried to fake belief in God because they were bored, so made a last supper where Jesus and the Apostles were all trannys. People who believed in God pointed out this was insane, so the swedes took the children of people who believed in God away, calling them human rights fanatics.

In England, friendship was made illegal in schools, and Christians forbidden to adopt. In Germany, religious people are arrested. Everyone in Europe wants to die, but no one is allowed to have guns, so instead they stab one another, have race wars, and vote for bad economic policies, all in the belief God is Dead.

 

In America, were all like, naw, screw that crazy stuff, and God gives us Hi Fives.

[Metella]

But what about the gay dudes ?       

 

I can only offer an opinion about American views - and that is general - with many exceptions .....   but I think Americans have been intolerante of gays not due to religion, but due to an odd outlook on what it is to be a man if you are not rich or of a ruling class family.   They really aren't good at being honorable - so to draw attention away from them and their own weakness - they lash out verbally and physcially at gay men.   They just make fun of lesbians unless they are pretty.

 

I've never hear the phrase Abrahamic Faiths before ... but I would say they came about because cultured aliens trying to help us learn to become civilized realized most population groups were not advanced enough to understand, so they pretended they were gods and taught morality and standards and other nice things .... which the Abrahamic fools twisted and mudded until it was fine with them to kill and torture anyone who didn't follow exactly how the preacher of the day said the "word of god" was meant to be followed.    They are only bested at intolerance by Islam - but then, that is still the Abrahamic Faiths, yes?     Wish those aliens would come back now and say now - but that was all you could understand at the time, now snap out of it and work with us to make this planet a better place to live.