Hamilcar Barca Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Has anyone seen Ridley Scotts new historical epic "Kingdom of Heaven"? I don't want to see it if it's anything like Troy or other such trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus Pilus Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Considering the accuracy of Gladiator, I'd be surprised if this isn't similar. However, I don't doubt that it will be entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanicus Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 You know you're going to have to spend that twelve bucks on it anyway Hamilcar, no matter how many people tell you it's a dog. I know I will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longbow Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Do what i do Download them,u know its going to be a stinker,why waist your hard earned cash. I cant wait to see it,i love the crusaders.  12 bucks,thats cheap  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursus Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Lately I just wait and borrow other people's DVDs. If the movie stinks I'm only out 2 hours of my life. Â Â I hate the theatres anyway. Screaming kids running out every five minutes to to the restroom or the food stand. The talkative morons who feel compelled to deliver running commentary on the movie to their neighbors. Filthy people who fill the air with their body odor or flatulence. The incessant cacophony of a nearby obese person who rummages through $50 worth of food candy bars and popcorn. And my favorite people of all - the ones who come in 30 minutes late and make commotion while they frantically search for the few remaining seats. Â Yeah, wait to borrow the DVD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skel Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 holy crap.. its 12 bvucks for you guys? its like 6 for us in my town... well for a matinee showing. after like 6pm its like 8-10 i think... Â Â anyhoo im sure as hell gonna go see it. does anyone know what part of the crusade it is supposed to take place in? whats seige and all that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacertus Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Guys! 12 dollars are so much, I'll see it for 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longbow Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Its the siege of Jerusalem,i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilcar Barca Posted April 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 O yeah, I'm sure I'll see it in any case, I was just wondering if anyone had seen it yet. By the way the $12 is in $NZ and the movie is apprantly set in the 3rd Crusade, the one with Saladin and Richard I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skel Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 ooooo the third crusade was no good.... thay shoulda done the 34th crusade! or the 81st! but not the third. bad choice for the third Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynch Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 It could not be the third crusade, as in the film the Christians hold Jerusalem, and Richard I never set foot inside the city, he never even seriously attempted to capture it. Also, in the film the King of Jerusalem is Baldwin IV, who died in 1185 before the third Crusade started in 1189. So, unless the film is just loosely historical (very possible) The happenings in the story take place between the 2nd and 3rd Crusade onward to the death of Baldwin, and the Fall of Jerusalem to Saladin, which in turn sprarked the 3rd Crusade, outrage over the occupation of Jerusalem, and the capture of the True cross etc. Richard failed to capture Jerusalem, and retake the True cross from Saladin, all Richard managed to due was secure Jaffa and Acre and Arsuf. Richard may have been a brilliant warrior, but he was by no means successful in his objectives, he even tried to marry his sister to Saladin's brother to secure peace, he even knighted Saladin's Nephew! Richard could have done alot more, had he not been so cautious and terrified at the prospect of attacking Jerusalem. As he mucked around advancing and retreating twice, he wasted his men's energy, and made them loose faith in his abilities. Either way, Historical or not, it looks like a good movie I plan to drop my $12.50 CAD to see it. I never expect to see historically accurate films, thats not what they are there for, for that we have books and documentaries! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilcar Barca Posted April 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 O, ok. My sources for the movie were obviously incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanicus Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I never expect to see historically accurate films, thats not what they are there for, for that we have books and documentaries! Â Â Good call - expecting them will only lead to disappointment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynch Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 O, ok. My sources for the movie were obviously incorrect. Well I dont have any special sources, I just watched the trailer, and read about it on the official website. Perhaps the film does span into the 3rd crusade, but that would only be after Orlando bloom and company get kicked out of Jerusalem. So maybe it does follow the retreat from Jerusalem, maybe Orlando survives and fights later at Acre under Richard or Philip. Who knows? But I see the film ending will the Fall of Jerusalem, unless of course they are going against history, which is totally plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilcar Barca Posted April 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 No I'm sure your right Lynch, since starting this topic I went and looked up to see what the movie was about myself. My source was a friend who knows virtually nothing about history and asked me "You'll be seeing that new movie about the 3rd Crusade right?", I then went and brought it up here without doing any reserach first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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