barca Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 We all know that the Ostrogoths occupied Italy for a while prior to the bloody reconquest by the Eastern Empire. What happened to them after their final defeat? The Visigoths founded the Kingdom of Spain. The Franks founded France. Anglo-Saxons, England. Was there any place that the Ostrogoths finally ended up as kingdom, or were they just absorbed by other barbarian kingdoms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmo Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 We all know that the Ostrogoths occupied Italy for a while prior to the bloody reconquest by the Eastern Empire. What happened to them after their final defeat? The Visigoths founded the Kingdom of Spain. The Franks founded France. Anglo-Saxons, England. Was there any place that the Ostrogoths finally ended up as kingdom, or were they just absorbed by other barbarian kingdoms? After the Roman reconquest of Italy there were probably not many organized groups of Ostroghots left. The reminder were probably assimilated into the Latin-speaking majority, or by Longobards and Franks. Generally the goths were always a diverse group and the Ostrogoths even more so. Maybe it is better to see them as an umbrella term covering a diverse people precariously binded together around some weak institutions like the Amal dynasty and the Arian church by the spoils taken from their subjects. Like for many other similar groups, defeat meant the collapse of the institutions and, much more important, losing access to the spoils of conquest . Most migratory tribes ended without leaving much behind, including Huns, Vandals, Suevi, Alans, Burgunds, Gepids, Avars etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldrail Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 ...Anglo-Saxons, England... Strictly speaking that's not true. England was established as a defined territory by Roman provincial administration, and in their wake was the region in which anglo-saxons fought native britons,scandanavians, irish, and picts for dominationover a realm which was still culturally divided until 1066. Darn it... The Normans established England as a coherent realm...But I take solace in that although they spoke french (a latin language no less) they were descended from vikings. As for the ostrogoths,didn't they assimilate themselves into sub-roman society? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecimusCaesar Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 After the Roman reconquest of Italy there were probably not many organized groups of Ostroghots left. The reminder were probably assimilated into the Latin-speaking majority, or by Longobards and Franks. This is probably accurate. Italy became a battlefield throughout the Dark Ages, Middle Ages and even into the early Renaissance. After all the country was only reunited in 1870-71. With so many armies tramping across Italian soil and areas switching control between factions, it isn't surprising that the Ostrogoths got assimilated into a larger identity overtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caldrail Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 The Ostrogoths lost the war against the Byzantine Empire (and its allies). The gothic leader, Theodahad was executed on the order of his more popular armour bearer Vitiges, proclaimed King on the Barbarian Plains, who made one last ditch effort to expel Belisarius from Italy in a fourteen month campaign before surrendering willingly in 555. He was subsequently allowed to live as a patrician in Constantinople though he only lived two more years. Some settlements remained loyal to the goths but the last, Verona, surrendered in 561. See Belisarius - Ian Hughes And now we have recited the origin of the Goths, the noble line of the Amali and the deeds of brave men. This glorious race yielded to a more glorious prince and surrendered to a more valiant leader, whose fame shall be silenced by no ages or cycles of years; for the victorious and triumphant Emperor Justinian and his consul Belisarius shall be named and known as Vandalicus, Africanus and Geticus. Res Getica - Jordanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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