Was there any Byzantine/Ottoman fashion crossover?

[bitparity]

Especially given the overlap, between the Ottomans taking over formerly Byzantine areas, and Gibbons saying the Ottomans merely took over the top the bureaucracy, while continuing its administrative practices.

 

Was wondering if this would be akin to the norman conquest, or perhaps even the barbarian invasions of China. That though one invading group conquered the other, they were eventually subsumed culturally into the other.

 

Was there overlap in dress sense, both before the fall of constantinople, and in the few decades afterward?

[Kosmo]

Especially given the overlap, between the Ottomans taking over formerly Byzantine areas, and Gibbons saying the Ottomans merely took over the top the bureaucracy, while continuing its administrative practices.

 

Was wondering if this would be akin to the norman conquest, or perhaps even the barbarian invasions of China. That though one invading group conquered the other, they were eventually subsumed culturally into the other.

 

Was there overlap in dress sense, both before the fall of constantinople, and in the few decades afterward?

 

'Byzantines' influenced the arab caliphate, the seljuq turks and directly the ottomans but not to a large extent.

The ottomans were focused mainly on the seljuq traditions because they started as a seljuq emirate. For example the fief holder cavalrymen - timarli sipahi- is an institution with seljuq origins. An important role was also played by Islamic law and culture. The central ottoman institution was that of the slave group recruited from christian children -dev?irme- that formed the bureaucracy and the core of the army (including the Janissary), and wielded tremendous political power. This is very different from roman/byzantine traditions but not unheard in Islamic context (mamluks) .

The ottoman culture and state were very different from Byzantine one.

 

About fashion I don't know much but I think that excepting imperial and clergy clothes the late byzantines followed a dress influenced by western models. The ottomans used Islamic and Turkish dress like turban, wide pants etc.

[Melvadius]

Not a period I know well but a couple of observations.

 

When any culture is conquered by another there will be a period of stabalisation during whcih aspects of each culture will merge unless there are regulations enacted which either ban or enforce the use of certain materials or styles of clothing. There is therefore liable to be some individuals unable or unwilling to replace clothing and/or other aspects of their 'material culture' while others will consciously wish to 'ape' their conquerors.

 

How long this period continues will vary from culture to culture but as I understand it the Moslem conquerors of Byzantium subscribed to the basic Islamic habit of non-representational iconography so the previous Byzantine habit of iconography and representational mosaics presumably stopped around the time of the conquest.

 

Unless anyone knows better without this visual record then it will be extremely difficult to give a defintive answer to this question since 'clothing' generally does not survive well. My own instinctive view is that it could well have have taken several years to complete but material cultural remains such as personal adornments and metal or bone fastenings may well be dateable and to the right expert could give indications of increasing use of some types of apparel and consequently a potential rate of cross-culturization.