Igorak89 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Hello :-). I am newbie here :-). I asking for help. I found inscription which mention governer of city of Pautalia (today: city of Kyustendil in Bulgaria) which erected a stela for the good health of empress Marcia Otacilia Severa and emperor (her husbund Philip The Arab [244 - 249]). I need a name for governer of city of Pautalia to determine precisious the date of the stela. Can you help me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryaxis Hecatee Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Hi, Do you have any scholarly reference for the inscription ? In any case you must know that it might very well be that we don't know the name of the governor of the province (the city would probably have other kind of magistrates, and more than one, to lead itself). But the reference to the Emperor might very well provide you with a much more precise datation because the inscriptions usually give us the complete title of the emperors, including the number of "tribunitian power" and/or consulate he has already achieved, with provides us with a date precise to the year or the half year. So without the text of the inscription and/or scholarly reference to it (be it Corpus Inscriptionum Latinarum or an Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igorak89 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Problem is that the stela is damaged so it is hard to read. I found serbian translation in newspaper (dated 1934. g.). The stela was found near city of Pirot (in southeast Serbia). I found that this territory wasn't governered by magistrates of Pautalia because area around city of Pirot was under Moesia Superior while Pautalia was in Thrace. I already dated stela (probabaly Philipp The Arab) but I trying to be more accurate if it is possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryaxis Hecatee Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Well could you please write here what latin was given in the article ? We could use some tools to try identifying it or look inside it for details. For example if they are names we can take a look into prosopographical books for example, or look at what informations are given in the imperial title... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maty Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Well could you please write here what latin was given in the article ? We could use some tools to try identifying it or look inside it for details. For example if they are names we can take a look into prosopographical books for example, or look at what informations are given in the imperial title... Given the where and when of the inscription, I'd guess it is more likely to be Greek than Latin. In any case, the expert to direct your query to is Prof. P.Dimitrov. He's a specialist in epigraphy in that part of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igorak89 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I found complet translation of latin inscription but it is in serbian so I posses only serbian translation, not original Latin. It mention name in serbian Publije Publian (probbably lat. Publius Publianus?!) as governer of Pautalia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvadius Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I think what the others need to help rather than the name of individuals mentioned is a formal reference for the inscription. Somethiing like CIL (for Corpus Inscriptionum Latinarum) or CIG (for Corpus Inscriptionum Graecarum used with Greek script) and a number. With that information or one of a few other possible letter and number combinations used in other publications it is possible to track down the full printed version of the original Latin or Greek scripts and obtain clues to possible dates as well as locations where found and other information to help answer your original question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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