JGolomb Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 4th century Roman coin discovered No real indication how valuable of a find this is. Would anyone have a guess? A ROMAN coin dating from the fourth century has been discovered at a nature reserve in Snape. The historic coin was found by a local archaeologist earlier this year at RSPB Abbey Farm and is believed to date from 347 AD, during the reign of Constantius II and his brother Constans. Constans visited Britain in 343, probably to repel the Scots or Picts, after becoming joint emperor of Rome with his brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaius Paulinus Maximus Posted September 16, 2009 Report Share Posted September 16, 2009 I have a coin very similar to this, it's the spikes on the crown that stand out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvadius Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 I have a coin very similar to this, it's the spikes on the crown that stand out. I beleive that these imperial images are a common feature of the later Roman coinage and normally described as 'radiate crown'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylla Posted September 17, 2009 Report Share Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) 4th century Roman coin discovered No real indication how valuable of a find this is. Would anyone have a guess? A ROMAN coin dating from the fourth century has been discovered at a nature reserve in Snape. The historic coin was found by a local archaeologist earlier this year at RSPB Abbey Farm and is believed to date from 347 AD, during the reign of Constantius II and his brother Constans. Constans visited Britain in 343, probably to repel the Scots or Picts, after becoming joint emperor of Rome with his brother. I have a coin very similar to this, it's the spikes on the crown that stand out. I beleive that these imperial images are a common feature of the later Roman coinage and normally described as 'radiate crown'. That's a nice observation, because based on Doug Smith's site (linked by UNRV member Guy) and similar sites, it seems the "radiate" (or "radiant") crown was a typical pagan symbol (of the Sun God), characteristic from an earlier period and usually used in Roman minting for some particular denominations, especially the Antonianus. I have still not found radiates in the issues of either Constans or Constantius II, who were both utterly Christian; besides, the image in the coin posted above seems to carry beard; all images I have been able to check out from both emperors are unbearded. On the other hand, in 2006 a large hoard of cooper-alley Roman coins with bearded radiated images attributed to the Roman ususrpers Carausius and Allectus was found in the area of Suffolk too, reportedly including 347 coins from Allectus. Just a coincidence, or a possible typo from the Evening Star team? Edited September 17, 2009 by sylla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) On the other hand, in 2006 a large hoard of cooper-alley Roman coins with bearded radiated images attributed to the Roman ususrpers Carausius and Allectus was found in the area of Suffolk too, reportedly including 347 coins from Allectus.Just a coincidence, or a possible typo from the Evening Star team? Great observation . I don't know much about coins of any type, but I do know that a Christianized Roman Emperor would not be typically portrayed with a radiate ("spiky") crown that is closely associated with the sun-god Sol. Here are some images of the coins from the emperor Constans: http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?searc...p;view_mode=1#0 The coin image depicted (the radiate crown and the beard) is more typical of a military Emperor from the third century, a century before Constans. Perhaps this coin was carried by someone from the fourth century, but depicted an Emperor from the century before. Coins in Ancient Rome were known to circulate for many years after they were initially produced. guy also known as gaius Edited April 17, 2012 by guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) guy said: The coin image depicted (the radiate crown and the beard) is more typical of a military Emperor from the third century, a century before Constans. guy also known as gaius That said, there are infrequent examples of Constantine I with a radiate crown: http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?searc...p;view_mode=1#6 And always one to hedge his bets, Constantine did have the image of the sun-god Sol regularly on the reverse of his coins. http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=135075 Edited June 24, 2022 by guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylla Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) The coin image depicted (the radiate crown and the beard) is more typical of a military Emperor from the third century, a century before Constans. guy also known as gaius That said, there are infrequent examples of Constantine I with a radiate crown: http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?searc...p;view_mode=1#6 And always one to hedge his bets, Constantine did have the image of the sun-god Sol regularly on the reverse of his coins. http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?searc...p;view_mode=1#8 guy also known as guy Constantine the Great was in fact rather eclectic in religious issues, and few of his surviving coins (arguably like 1%) show possible Christian symbolism. The most common divinities in Constatine coins were allegoric femenine figures, especially Victory; Pax and Libertas were also common. The Goddess Roma appeared too, and also Hercules and even Jupiter; and of course, Sol. Even more; Constantine himself was posthumously deified in coins by his sons. Edited September 23, 2009 by sylla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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