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  1. I have a question (or a bunch of questions) that I'm desperately trying to find an answer to...it seems that everywhere I look I'm getting information that is either conflicting or vague. So hopefully someone here can straighten me out! I know that when Diocletian set up the Tetrarchy, he didn't continue to use the Praetorian Guard as his own personal guard unit. If I'm understanding correctly, he created the Jovians and Herculians from two faithful legions to be the new imperial guards. Is that correct? Were the Jovians attached to him (who styled himself Jovianus) and the Herculians to Maximian in Rome? Or did Maximian still have the Praetorian Guard, and the Jovians and Herculians were both attached to Diocletian? Also, I'm getting a bit hung up on the technical terms for the military divisions. Let's say the Jovians were in fact Diocletian's personal bodyguard. Would they have been considered a comitatus praesentales? Was the term "palatini" only used after Constantine? As for their hierarchy, I think I had read that the Praetorian Guard was commanded at the highest level by a Tribune...was this also the case of Jovians? Does anyone know what the numbers and ranks in this elite group might have looked like? Would they have had centurions, etc? Also, I know that Constantine achieved the rank of "tribunus ordinis primi"...and I thought I had read from somewhere else that he was in Diocletian's personal guard. So basically I'm wondering, would Constantine have served in the Jovians, and is this "tribune of the first order" a possible rank in that group? Any help would be SO appreciated...I'm getting dizzy trying to make sense of all of this. Thanks!
  2. Ave, I been for some time been thinking about who truely deserves the title of Savior of the Empire. Most people agree that both Constantine and Diocletian deserve the title, and I agree. However, recently I've been pondering, who deserves it more? Both saved the Empire in their own way, but if you to name one Savior of the Empire who would it be? In your opinion, who truely saved the Empire? I've been debating this myself for some time, so now I'm interested in getting other people's opinion. I personally lean more towards Diocletian, but both have their high points and their flaws.
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