Pertinax

Quite definitivley yes, I will search and pm you.

The Icenii were outraged at being disarmed (being a client state) along with the other local troublemakers. In Roman terms keeping the rear areas quiet was good strategy insensitively applied. Other opponents of Rome seem to have understood that an "imitation" legionary was the best countermeasure versus a real Legion , and at various times tried to emulate Rome to a degree (Numidian and Dacian experts may wish to disagree?). The constant modus operandi in Britain seems to have been petty kingdoms, tribal spats, and personal honour before any organised resistance at any level of social or political action.The Icenii tellingly failed to sow any crops prior to attacking ,which I suggest signals the "mob" nature of the uprising as suggested by FC above.

The answer on fluoride seems to be , there is a "time window" for the nutrient deficient (as children) when it helps with bone mass, but for adults on a reasonable diet it actually decreases mass . It is a banned toxic substance in several European countries.The problem is really getting "proper food" to kids and getting them to clean their teeth, like many other types of state intervention the unintended effects are worrying. My personal gripe is, that when the state says "we will put a chemical in the water to help everyone" I get a very bad feeling about the state.If an elderly person has osteoporosis some more "modest "chemical organoflourine drugs are much more effective than flluoridation of the whole water supply , the other treatment is to walk vigorously and keep muscle mass (thence wet bone mass). If they put bison grass vodka in the water I would probably be much happier. If flourine gas kills at 0.1 % unit presence do I feel good about it?

Ok , not to beat about the bush, aspartane is the unfettered Spawn of Satan.

Hitler was very keen on flouridation of water , as it rendered people both servile and docile.It is a poisinous bi-product of the aluminium industry and is so toxic that you cannot dump it in any waste diposal site in Europe.Oddly you can put it in water.

Children's Ice Cream Mendrake! :pimp: tell it like it is bro!

OK then ill go serious for a moment: reject- corn starch trans-fatty acids ( margarines/soft ice cream for example) they do not exist in nature, hard fats (butter, lard ,suet) are perfectly ok for active people in reasonable amounts. deoderised and heated food oils avoid grooming products with sodium lauryth (lauryl) sulphate ,titanium and aluminium oxides. avoid chocolate under 70 percent cocoa fat solids flouride in toothpaste or water ( alzheimers) any added blue colours in food tartrazine, aspartane.asulphamane and saccharine (evil junk) shun plastic bottles and packaging (oestrogen) eat cold pressed extra virgin olive oil, garlic , cayenne, clove, spelt bread, good red wine , loads of fresh fish, wild meats (venison, boar) , artichoke, spinach,leeks , scallops, olives, anything your Granny says is good ! OK ive calmed down now. :fish:

amen to that.

After doing "mod school" a bit of light relief, I like this very much! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pakLEVFl390

Weve drifted away from Rome so ive split the thread!

Well it sounds like it should be but alas.... Unfortunately it happens to be both addictive and very fattening , it is used to volumise many foods, and it is the reason for coca cola achieving such vast profitability.I believe its origins lie with your President Nixon ,searching for a high yield food crop to aid American self sufficiency.I denounce it as the Great Satan! Its use mysteriously coincides with the geographical range of MS, (probably as a co-factor with trans-fatty acids). (leaves soap box)

Primus Pilus recently used the exquisite phrase "cavorting with actors" (Lucius Verus) , as the sine qua non of debauched vileness. This reminded me very much of my late Father's most extreme epiphet , when outraged beyond the limits of dignity he would expostulate " damned nancy!" . This was not a phrase meant to make a suggestion relating to certain "tendencies and lewd entertainments " rather a condemnation of complaisant political posturing. Carcapino tells us:that street corner pantomines in the 1st C AD became vilely debased, titillating audiences with lewd gesture and expostulation,in Macaris and Canace Nero deigned to play the incestuous sister of the female lead.

A definite target type then.Almost identical to 3rd C AD mounted.auxilliae

In the context of this blog entry perhaps a "target" style shield is therefore appropriate , given the stress placed on "lightness"?

Thank you for that learned interjection. :notworthy: And by chance we have this little chat about Thujone in Wormwood. http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?act=mo...=si&img=296

that is very funny.

That was deep. Very deep, indeed. I hope that you are not playing with your marbles now. Madame Pertinax makes sure my marbles are kept in a small bag for safekeeping.

wow another huge triumph for liberal diplomacy. When I was a sprog (nb: English usage " small schoolboy with scabby legs and sundry frogs and catapults in pockets" ) I thought it was strange that the ancient greeks played marbles, I mean they were a very serious sort of people.I conjectured that there was probably therefore a deep philosophical meaning to the game of marbles -how wrong I was, marbles is a much better game than philosophy.

will the Greek church burn it as an Evil Omen? THe Marbles would be a nice shopping mall floor if not in the British Museum.

wine was a favoured medium for a lot of "medications". In Brittania horehound herb in wine was an attested Legionary cough syrup.Considerable numbers of finds at Pompeii show various herbs in a wine base,sounds a good way to medicate.

The same Marcus Aurelius also strongly encourages the use of oppium in "Meditations". That must have been some Contubernium to chill in.

Flattery will get you everywhere! Try it in porridge as well, and both are better with a pinch of salt. If I recall Marcus Aurelius had a whole cinnamon tree in his personal effects, on campaign!

How things change across time and space! I think AD is the real authority on the prestige of spices, as medicine and\or items of conspicuous consumption. ADs book Dangerous Tastes is excellent on this very topic (which i urge you to buy) http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0714127...ce&n=266239 Both were "fabulous" luxury goods, cinnamon in particular being a whiff of luxury incarnate. Nowadays ? cloves are cheap and plentiful , likewise cinnamon which I use in coffee with cardoman pods.Both are strongly antibacterial. Lets see if AD will give us a little of his vast knowledge

No indeed , I was thinking of the infection! Clove is still the standard for temporary packing fillings, im not aware that anything surpasses it in antimicrobial excellence. My other suggestions for plausible Roman usage would be cinnamon (if you were wealthy ) and frankincense.(AD?) as antiseptics (which would work for that purpose). Pliny alas requires us to chew the pitch of the juniper bush ( no "miracle of the juniper bush remarks please" ) because rotten teeth adhere to it and fall out , thus relieving toothache. Cruse (Roman Medicine) is adamant that the generality of found roman dentition is superior to modern teeth in the general lack of cariousness ( no sweeteners, and no mushy "white" products). Celsus certainly mentions the use of an iron cautery (ouch) cyprus and iris oil are suggested as poultice applications for painful teeth , the other herbs are, not surprisingly, henbane root in a vinegar and wine mix, or poppy head skins as a poultice, or mandragora.