Pertinax

For your amusement and edification, I have launched a specific HBO gallery : I have numerous images please pm if something in particular tickles your fancy (does that translate to North American English?). http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?act=mo...si&img=1261 Have a look here.

I think our new member "Krackalakin" may have meant to post this item: but inadvertently pmd it to myself, as he says "this is a little off topic" but I thought it best to enter the post into the thread,for now-it can always be moved if it looks totally off beam. "This is a little off topic but I have a strong feeling Alexander didn't really die of a fever but was actually murdered. It makes perfect sense. I think he was asassinated for the same reason Lincoln and Jfk were. "Race integration". It's been one of the biggest reasons to kill political leaders for centuries. As you all probably know, Alexander was taking steps at integration as well as changing his own style from hellenic to Persian. I personally think he did this because he thought it would be the best way to ensure his throne but I don't think he realized how selfish and detached it made him to his army and a lot of his administrators. This is just a theory I've put together after reading a great many books on him. It seem to me to be way more logical. If you think about it, doesn't it seem odd that for a man that was documented so well his whole life, posterity doesn't know for certain how he met his end? To me it sounds like they assasinated him, and destroyed all recorded testimony of this and rewrote history. Another thing that points to this is one of his surviving statues is beheaded but no one admits that it had. I don't understand how people can really think a head of a statue can break off like that so clean and neatly. It looks plainly obvious to me that at some time, someone cut off his head and a good guess would be when he was murdered. They hated everything he stood for so if they murdered him, they probably wanted or would destroy anything they could get their hands on that reminded them of his empire. This is all speculation but it's what I believe happened. There's so many things that point to it"

Ah thank you! I like the "Nero" touch , but Aetius is a most honourable name.

I wouldnt want to be the Murex collector! Especially if there was an order for a dozen togas.

As things stand I could manage any of those dates and will certainly aim to be there. That is very good news. UK members , please try and "report in" here even if its a negative.

Thank you DC. Lane Fox strikes me as a man in command of his subject ,( across a staggering range of cultural detail). I suspect that his rounded prose is an issue with "moderns". I enjoyed his donnish wit very much, I think it reveals a love of the English language.

It was frowned upon because it was not considered to be as "useful" as physics, chemistry and maths. The chemistry has come in very handy though since.Thank you for the compliment.

ok heres a "re-scrambled" set: 1. with middle initials: hjrnrocobnte. 2. with one middle name only: nrnconjheoaetrmro. thank you. I dont wish to be a boar.

Me to please- male : 1. first and last names only:neotnhrjor 2. all names:rncjtehtoeorrtnbahorneormon.

Oddly enough Domina Pertinax would probably tag along, her best quote as regards my love of all things Roman being one ive mentioned privately before " If I were an old ruin , you would probably pay more attention " . A dangerous quote. Also this invite extends to the re-established website of Augustus Caesar : http://www.hadrians-wall.info/ due to proximity of persons and interests.

Well, let us gather information and see who is "probable" and "possible" . I may lose one of those dates myself as I am determined to get to Pompeii in early spring. It strikes me as an additional posibility that we could check re-enactment events later in the year and possibly rendezvous at one such.Nobody need fear that these dates are cut in stone , nor that it will be the only attempt. Couldnt you drag the Wife along, its not a long trip?

Indeed , and I suspect therefore that perceived identity is therefore adduced. As to wether these squabbling tribes could ever be a coherent entity, witness Rome's strategy in the conquest of Britain.The Belgic link to Britain is most interesting.

The trading links (via Venetii controlled transportation) to Southern Britain were heavily trafficked prior to the Caesarian expeditions, modern Poole in Dorset being the entrepot for the area ( I do not say country as such a mental construct did not exist at that time).The "Southern Tribes" had a more material culture, so making them susceptible to Roman trade (and ad hoc intelligence ) penetration. The Northern peoples tended to have wealth concentrated in cattle as a portable resource (over a wider physical range ) with "nodal" concentrations of physical strength.In Wales the lack of a culture based on physical possesion of wealth , and conspicuous consumption of goods was an underlying reason for the relative strength of resistance to Roman incursion: ie-no softening up by "luxuries" and informal contact ,and no sharp eyed merchants gathering informal intelligence. This link gives some ad hoc points we touched on previously- http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?showto...amp;#entry33568 The tribal structure of the South seems to indicate that suzerainty of a given tribe could pass to a "European" noble who would assume control of a "British" tribe based solely on personal social ranking. I think it s best to keep remembering that "Britain" as a cultural construct has no cohesive force until the Romans had colonised, I certainly catch myself projecting a Brittannic identity "backward" into this period. and I think this thread touches it also: http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=3575&st=0 Here im talking Brigantes , but the underlying theme is similar.Dont forget that climatically the south is an easier climate , and that the Kentish weald is the most significant iron processing area in the time frame we are discussing.

This is surely going to cause me some trouble at some point I think Priceless. ok here goes: 1. first and last names only:neotnhrjor 2. all names:rncjtehtoeorrtnbahorneormon. yes I have quite a lot of names!

wild boar eh? ha ha , you got him there! :fish:

The "Poverty " title looks interesting but its , er..rather expensive.

I understand your confusion. 12,000 of the little blighters were needed per toga , you can therefore glimpse the expense and work needed to collect , process and extract the dyestuff.

1.A dangerous Colonial innovation where one may purchase, say, a petrol driven chainsaw whilst drinking beer. 2. That thing at the head of your webpage you use to search for "stuff", or it might have your anti-spam tool or notepad attached as well .It looks like this thread means we could one day get a nice "in house" one in fetching antiqued, Romanised style.

Oh yeah, I forgot. So it's a booze made from witches' toenails...that should hit the spot May I interject in this learned internicine italo-centric debate? A "ristretto con grappa, doppia" is my favoured breakfast .Anglo-Saxon cold blood that I am. A strega I prefer with una chocolata caldo.

The heads are substantial, all as large as a mans torso.I sympathise as regards the museums , lighting is crucial , even major art galleries fail to deliver sympathetic displays.

Gentlemen , I have been given a timely reminder about our intended powwow. Please give consideration to the following possible dates 1. March 24/25 2007 2.March 31/1 April 2007 or 3.April 14/15 2007 for a meeting in York. The "missing" weekend is of course Easter . Let us try and achieve some sort of rough consensus.Your thoughts please.

GPM -im sorry but you have an inoperative link again! Please fix it and ill tidy the thread.

Images and statues, but particularly those with religious allusions: in relation to the symbolic nature of these images , so Patrons sought to influence their clientii. This certainly doesn't exclude "secular" or mythological notifs , the latter being very popular. Gladiatorial images tend to be more of a "downmarket" thing, ie: badges, cups, glassware and knicknacks hawked at shows (like souvenirs at sporting events nowadays).If you can be patient till I visit Naples in the spring then I will have plenty of images either here or on my msn blog to illustrate this.

A couple of notes to round off the topic, if , as we hope Decimus Vitus' website prospers members will be able to see his "walk through" of a Roman house: http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4681 this thread refers to his resurrected website , and I commend it to you. The statistical analysis of Vesuvian dwellings in the work I have been taking notes from: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Society-Pompeii-He...8&s=gateway gives some useful (if not wholly unsurprising ) results: quartile analysis of dwelling size shows a preponderance of units under 50 (m2) , with at least 40 percent of these units having a first floor.The dwellings in the third and fourth quartile tend to be the Atrium (impluvate) with peristyle dwellings we have visited (or seen frequently illustrated). So our general perception is coloured by the "finer" dwellings, indeed the more notable properties are those we are ,perhaps , most aware of (House of the Faun, Vetii for example). An interesting feature of Pompeiian land use is that we do not have any "modern" zoning demarcation of property type usage, save as to spatially extensive (and relativeley rare) large houses with garden space, so shops, bars and small workshops mingle extensively with domestic use, Upper levels are ,probably, much more extensive than we consider-and thsi has ramifications as to how we look at the room hierarchies within buildings, given that ground level survivals are nearly all we have to se at Pompeii (though not so at Herculaneum).

do you suggest a ceremonial usage? I have added a second scavanged image : http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?act=mo...si&img=1242 which does say "triarius, hastatus and principe " to my non-specialised eyes.These look like conventional armour/sword configurations.Would anyone now care to comment on the gladius in this illustration? Is this the "hispanic" sword that Caldrail is commenting upon?