pompeius magnus

Since there seems to be a lot of variance in opinions and people tending to side with one view or another, lets find out who is where. I have it on good source that I am a populares for my dissaproval of Caesar's march on Rome, as well as my varied opinions on Marcus Antonius. What are you.

We are just at odds here, I think that Antonius was very corrupt and he just didn't care about a lot of people besides himself. In his earlier years he was the same way. I will yield to the comment about having a part in Caesars assassination, but he was still unconstitutional. If I had to make a choice between him and Octavian, Octavian would be an easy choice.

Even though the senate and sulla are both tempting choices, I have to go with Antonius. He abused his power in Rome and caused caesar to do extra work in undoing antonius' laziness. Also the almost mutininees' of Caesar's legion X can be partially blamed on Antonius. And most important I believe he was behind Caesar's assassination in some way as he hoped he would gain inheritance, not to mention the whole deal with Cleopatra.

Why don't you send me an aolim at kslice2k2, msnim at kslice2k2@hotmail.com, or yahoo at kslice2k2@aol.com.

Now every one is tired of me saying this I know, but you don't need to look further than Christianity, look at one of my past topics to get details.

For a info on decorations you would definintly look at the mosaics which will also tell you of family life. Some famous ones to look at would be Cocks fighting in front of a mensa- taken from home in Pompeii currently at the Museo Archeologico Nazionale in Naples Trojan Horse fresco from House of Menander- from Pompeii currently in same museum above and the most infamous one from Pompeii: Paquis Proculus and wife which was a wall painting and is in the same museum as above. To see these you might try to find a roman art book, which will definintly have these amoung them. Anyone else know a specific book to try.

No problem. With my classical studies in roman and greek history I come across mythology paintings alot and that is one of my favorite ones. There is a thread in this area called where is everyone from where you can get that answer. I am an undergraduate, junior, at university of Iowa majoring in history and classics and will eventually get my phd in Roman and greek history and am 22.

He is an outcast and must be destroyed... j/k welcome to UNRV. I like the pic of Aphrodite, uh I mean, Venus.

Since we all talk on this site a lot, I thought it might be fun to get to know each other outside the site via instant messanger service. If anyone thinks this is getting too personal than I completly understand, or if this is inappropriate please feel free to tell me. Anyway my 3 messanger services are Aolim: kslice2k2 Yahoo: kslice2k2@aol.com- or kingmandingo2k2 MSN: kslice2k2@msn.com Hope to get a chance to talk to some of you. Later

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I find it fascinating how you can just be digging around in Rome and in their former colonies and find hidden parts of Roman architecture and such. The biggest discovery I have ever had was some pottery from the Civil War only 150 or so years ago.

There is already a topic on this matter which Ursus gave the url for above. Most people there said what I did, that Augustus was the best emperor, check it out.

I will be the first to show my disapproval to this topic as it will cause too many angry posts. I for one do not think we have an empire, at least not by choice Bush is not representative of the majority of Americans in this desire for empire. I for one would rather leave Iraq alone, as it will lead to too many wars and a falling foreign policy could lead to war with europe, a war we could not win. Thats all for now.

This is a very difficult question to answer because the Romans were different as far as crossing the line towards conquering. In its early days I think Rome could be looked at as consolodating its hold on central Italy, which can be viewed as trying to protect itself. It established Latin Allies who eventually revolted, several times, causeing Rome to act and eventually become their masters. With the Second Punic War, they were attacked by Carthage and fought back and defeated them, so gained territory in Spain and Africa, same goes for the 4 or so wars with Macedon, in which they were attacked, or suspected of attack, so gained territory there. In the last 100 years of the republic, it began to change a little, especially with the greed of Crassus and the questioned motives of Caesar in Gaul. There were still wars to protect themselves, such as the war with Pontus fought by Sulla, and the affairs of Caesar in Egypt and later Augustus, Caesar felt angry about Pompey the great being killed by Egyptian leader. In the empire the motives were more for conquering than for protection. Some one who has some expertise on the empire can help you out here as my expertise really ends in 44 BCE.

After initial failures, pompey managed to hold off sertorius and began to cause the war to turn, and then yes sertorius was assassinated, but Pompey still did increadibly well against sertorius as he was in his mid twenties.

Along with the books Ursus mentioned, give Herodotus a try its a good foundation and gives you both information on Perisan and Greek history and conflict. For Roman, start off with Livy, he is a good foundation and an easy read.

How about calling it the forum romani

see any of my posts arguing with former member spartacus on this issue and you will find that I agree with you.

These are only a few of the many, obviously the roads were not rome's invention but they vastly improved them, same as the roman law, but their laws of the 12 tablets, from Greek law, and the eventual Theodoscian Code as well as Justinian, still roman at that time, Corpus Civis Legis which was the basis of law until Napoleon modified it.

the purpose of this topic is whether Pompey is a first rate general, which he obviously is. Sure he had trouble with Sertorius, but was very young at the time, and nobody could defeat Casesar, he became a god after his death. When Marius and Sulla had their military success keep in mind that they were seasoned veterans, and Pompey finished off stuff in the east and swept away the pirates harrassing the mediterranean. Marius and Sulla are first rate generals, but so is Pompey based on his youth when he defeated Sertorius, he wasn't even thirty if memory serves, Sertorius was a veteran general who learned from Marius. Heres a list in my view of the greatest generals from the republic, this is my opinion only 1. Gaius Julius Caesar 2. Gaius Marius 3. Scipio Africanus 4. Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus 5. Lucius Cornellius Sulla 6. Quintus Fabius Maximus

My apologies for some incorrect dates, like I have said before, I am a man of the Republic and my knowledge of the empire is a little vague right now.

One of the important things he did was to reinvent the pilum having them break when they hit something, whether in be ground or the flesh, so that the enemy could not through them back.

in brief, constantine moved capital to his newly built capital at constantinople around 4th century AD. gradually the two parts split into eastern and western. Rome fell to Aleric in the 6th century and ceased to exist as an empire, although the eastern part lasted until it was conquered by the Ottoman turks in the 15th century through gradually eatting away the territories of the byzantines. The issue of when the eastern empire ceased to be roman is very debatable as the latin kingdoms in the west thought of it as greek during the first crusades, and I argue that the date it became more greek than roman was in 1054 with the great schism.

Boy we just can't agree can we Ursus, I am pro-Republic, even though i agree it was doomed to fall after Marius' necessary reforms, so in a way I supported a government that was almost impossible to save after Marius.

but hades had 2 other parts besides their heaven and hell, but their names slip my mind. Elesuis is where the really good ones go, and the normal ones go somewhere else, but if you pulled a Tantalus, then Tartarus it was.