pompeius magnus

My mistake it was late last night and I was reading posts fast and tiredly- don't think that ones in the dictionary- so must have missed. My apologies.

Yeah I do, how the commons emptied the city until the senate would give them a voice. I also love the decemvirates and the sack of Veii.

I study the early days of Rome from mystery surrounding founding down to Gaulic sack of Rome in 390 BCE.

Spartacus you are continuing to confuse things. The sport of gladiator fighting and criminals/slaves fighting lions was their form of entertainment. It is no different then middle age games. Like I have mentioned before in Roman times killing someone in that fashion was accepted in society as I also described the whole paterfamilias concept. Romans, after early republic, did not execute criminals, with exception of Cicero having Cataline's associates executed, instead they were either exiled, if they were convicted of more minor crimes such as treason, or sent off to be gladiators. It is the same concept as our death penalty. And no offense intended, but your lambasting of other peoples opinions is showing bad form as it is discouraging others from posting comments as well as making you look bad, and also being very biased towards your own opinions. Thats all for now. PM.

I have to go with PP here. Ethnic Cleansing is the intentional cleansing of an ethnic group, such as the Armernians by the Turks. Caesar and many other generals throughout history used the tactic of scaring rebelllious groups into submission to prevent them from stirring a rebellion. Casting a black shadow on Caesar is not fair.

What can I say I likes my challenges- poor american english on purpose for those outside the states. And besides Im studying hard for a Latin midterm tomorrow and need a break every so often. And hey you may even win this one. And by the way do you ever sleep spartacus. Its just past midnight here so it must be at least 3 or 4 over in england.

Spartacus you forgetting some important realties. First, that back in Roman times it was completly accepted. Paterfamilias could kill there sons if they had just cause to, such as him disagreeing with him, so it is no wounder that these games had men killing each other. Also it is no different than our executing of criminals and the death penalty. Most of these gladiators were criminals, in the case of Spartacus who was a ditcher of military. On the other side, in our culture today death is not accepted. If my father decided I had angered him and he kills me, he goes away for a long time. Football, like PP said, and rugbee and soccer are all to us what the gladiator games were to the romans as the modern stadium is off the roman design, which is based in part from the greek design.

I hardly doubt you can blame Caesar for being an ethnic cleanser. What Caesar did was accepted at the time as being acceptable and necessary. He did not want to leave a chance for dissention so this was an example to anyone who might think about rebelling. Crassus did the same thing with the remaining gladiator army of Spartacus, crusified them on intervals along main road going into Roma. Ethnic cleansing back in the ancient times would have been more along the lines of what the Assyrians did to the Jews when they took Jerusalem, and the Babylonians, and pretty much any polythesistic peoples who conquered the Judea. Now Roman persecution of Christians and Jews is a different story as it was focusing on eliminating a minority religion, which is a little different from ethnic cleansing but still close. This is coming from a definate supporter of Caesar.

Since my specialty is pre- Punic Roman history and have not studyed late Roman Empire yet, will there be anymore writing contests with some different topics.

Ok well since nobody posted a question here goes one. Name the Gaulic general who sacked Rome in 390 BCE

Obvoiusly the worst would have been the imfamous legion of varius as I believe augustus said: Varius give me back my legions

I am older than I look. I always thought it was post Punic War after Roman power began to spread.

I did

if you want to trust levy then I would put Camilius on that list. He took care of the Gauls and also took out the city of Veii. My favorite old republican general.

The egyptian example was a way to explain how people of different color cold integrate into a western society. There are also other ways such as the Persian transfusion into Egypt with their conquest, granted they were not white, and also when the Greeks controlled Egypt through the Ptolemic dynasty and later through Mithrades there were a lot of color mixing. Cleopatra was part Egyptian and part Pontic. The soldiers at Hardians wall were often slaves from north Africa who mixed with the romans in Brittania and thus created a variety of different children. So there are many ways that there could be black romans. Many roman names contained a form of Negro in it. There is even the possiblity of a Roman patrician and a black slave having intercourse, and granted their child would be looked down upon, he would still be Roman.

Tell your professor this is a redundant question and asking the what if question is not a good way to educate students as it leads to too many arguments and possiblities. If I ever got asked to do a paper on this type of topic I would refuse to do it.

There are so many roman civil wars another would have popped up and with or without Caesar there would have not been any stability as is obvious with Sulla and Marius.

Ok heres my view on religion. Every religion in the world is interconected and in fact all the same, but with different components. Me being a christian and monothesitic can only worship, and only want to worship, my one god. However, my god is Allah in the Arabic tradition, and Yahew in the Jewish tradition. As far as the pagan relgions go, they divide the monothesitc god into different components and worship those components in seperate ways, but there different gods are the same as my one god, but just split up. Even looking at the myths of the greeks and romans it is obvious that they have a lot in common with the old testatment and also of the mesopotamian and egyptian myths.

Heres an example of a black member of the Scipii branch: Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Scipio Nasica, or better known as Metellus Scipio a very revered member of the senate and member of the Boni faction against Caesar. Have you heard of the book Black Athena which describes how migrants from Egypt were the first inhabitants in Greece, and since there were vast Greek colonies in Italy and Siclily it is possible for there to be Black native Romans. Herodotus even describes how various Greek gods come from Egyptian originals.

Lex, you do though have many members of the Scipii gens that were black. As it seems odd how racist the west was, and still is in many places, but the Romans thought nothing of it. If you are a Roman, then whatever your skin color you were a roman. Wish that thought would have survived Rome's fall.

May not be ancient but I own three small statues I got in Roma last year. One is a chariot with horses and a roman driver on a roman road, the other two are two of my fav. romans, Gaius Julius Octavius Octavianus Augustus Caesar, and the other of course is Gauis Julius Caesar. Can't find one yet for my favorite Romans Gnaeus Pompeuis Magnus or Gaius Marius, but soon enough I will.

Christianity was the main cause. read my christianity topic in the temple section

Like it or not, Europe and America are Christian dominated, for me I like it, but for others it is more of a problem.

I would go with Aphrodite, the goddess of sexual love. I mean how could you not want to be in that goddesses favor.

NO offense intended as this is a very difficult issue to talk about. First off I am a Christian, Presbyterian to be exact, so I can not follow the pagan religion as I would be breaking one of the twelve commandments. I also study mythology of both the Greeks and Romans which is also a deterant from ever becoming Pagan. The Greek and Roman myths themselves have problems as far as not coinciding often. A lot of events don't chronologically make sense, such as the story of Prometheus and how he got his imortality from an immortal centaur who was cut by one of Herakles poison arrows and was in emense pain.