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You know, I think that if Jimmy Carter would of been elected Tribune back then, all this crap that went on later never would of happened.

Shoot, Arles became the administrative capital of the Western Empire during Consta)ntine's reign. And as with the Indian analogy, they might judge it a little different if you take on a couple of hundred extra years of British presence in India (putting it, say, around the year 2400) with it's own independen branch of the British Monarchy ruling over full citizens equal to any other part of the empire. Look at England today, it's absolutely saturated with Indians.... not exactly the population Henry the VIII would of recognized. Could you imagine what their racial characterists would be in the 25th century? And the east had plenty of Romans as well. A better anology would be Brazil, first during the Napoleonic Wars. The Royal family looked at the map, saw how undefendable their position was, and how secure Brazil was, and moved the government their, turning Portugual into a province. Now, Brazil Ethnically, culturally, and linguistical can't match Portugual. Later, when the royal family returned, one of the sons stayed behind and succeeded, proclaiming the Empire of Brazil (peacefully, no blood shed). He chosed not just independance, but to succeed from the empire. The romans differ in this; though they choose to create two seperate administravive halves to their empire, both retained their idenity as roman! They were still the same commonweath, equal in authority to one another, but limited to their own spheres. One was no better than the other. Now, did the Romans in the west maintain their genetic purity once the germans and iranians started setteling? (Cicero wasn't a roman by decent. His ancestors were conquered by the Romans)

They held onto naples for a couple of hundred years. I can't remember Rome though.

I thought they were in Pakistan, not India... I may be wrong, it's been a while. They still maintain the flame, has to be the oldest burning fire in history.

Marinesa are nuts, they had a few helicopter pilots stationed not to far away from where my unit was in Afganistan (I arrived right after they got back) they said the marine helicoper pilots fought differently than army cause they would go right over the target and attack it, whereas army pilots would attack from a distance, which I think is so much the better for the infantry, cause they can act as your fire support while bounding; but if their all shot down, you can't do that! Conservation of force I think is the wiser of paths, even with infantry. You can get all crazy in your assual if it's well planned, but you shouldn't do that if you don't know what's out there. That's the impression I get from them, they don't care info or security, just pure adreniline.

where do we go to find more info, like a listing of titles?

I just liked how each of those links contradicted another while pulling you in deeper with greater details.

http://www.silk-road.com/artl/romanenvoy.shtml http://omega.cohums.ohio-state.edu/mailing...998/08/0273.php http://www.chinese-forums.com/archive/inde...php/t-3476.html http://www.archaeology.org/9905/newsbriefs/china.html http://www.pip.com.au/~paceman/ROMANS%20IN...IN%20CHINA.html

Hmmm, that's amazing. Guess the old saying can't spell lost without Lt. would apply here! Really now, once a year or two goes by in an area where you don't recognize, I would of just snuck away and struck out west.... the sub sets in the same direction everywhere, how could you get it wrong? (I wonder why the Chinese never told the Eastern Romans this... they sent ambassadors occasionally)

It makes it especially difficult for me to disregard the east as roman since Boethius is one of my favorite philosophers, and just studying the east west relations of that time make it near impossible for one knowledgeable of that time period to concent to the belief the the Easterners suddenly stopped being Roman. Nobody in the West thought that, be it barbarian or Roman. I did a lot of archeology when I was a kid, volunteering for every dig nearby. A lot of people had a lot of theories, and the use of scientific methods was the only reliable means discrimination. Our question is one of politics, politics of the ancient world, and the politics of the modern. Our cultural memory of the Romans died in the West; the tribes and later nations looked upon the east with the distrust of a competitor; after the east-west schism of the church, they had even more reason to view them as alien. But this, this is a politically motivated view, one that has marched up through the centuries to the modern day. Of all the nations of tje field that have taken the field against rome, no matter how great the hate, none tried to deny them of being Roman. Now that they are gone, we mock their institutions, deny them their history and idenity, their place in their world during thier times. Things that we can assertain with concrete facts and overwhelming historical evidence by it's very nature should rip to threads the threries and labels of outsiders a thousand years later living in an alien culture. I will someday die as an American Citizen of the Republic of the United States of America. What person has the right a thousand years after my death to change this? It can be proven scientifically I am what I am, nothing more, nothing less; and with this alone, all theories contrary should be set aside.

I did research on Sudan a while back hopping to find a AoW (hints of one actually surfaced), they were mostly nomads with trade roots channelized across the desert. I highly doubt they had muchh contact with Rome, civilization wasn't very advance back then for them, a region who's basis for later civilization was overland trade to the north.

Wait, does this period include the latin occupation during the crusades?

Culture and tradition isn't of grave importance; for example, during the PRC's population swaps in Outer Mongolia, they started implanting ethnic Han onto the plains, in the expectation that they would 'modernise' the mongols.... intead, just the opposite happened, they soon assimilated to the mongol way of life due to the requirements of living in the plains; meanwhile, the mongols they settled in the surburbs, though could function moderately well, retained many of their old ways! Certain enviroments dictate man's lifestyle, in others, man is the dictator. The romans may of had no choice but to adapt.

Woudn't Canada have a version of the Royal Marines?

I'll check it out, but know that adherance to the greek ideal is going to be larger since their are still many crypto-christians around.

oh, the article not there I never thought of that though, the library should be intact, right? Would the scrolls of degraded inside since then?

No mound, but still got a royal burial of sorts? Sounds like he was defeated.

Ever thought about the origins of the name Romania? Anyway, it wasn't till recently that Constantinople changed it's name to Instanbul, meaning 'In the City', for the Turkish Occupation of the city, it kept it's Roman name. The greeks took it once during the 20th century, and then quickly lost it. Every since the massacre of Smyrna to the beginning of world war 2 that was placed as a high priority, since the threat of extremination of further Greek and Armenian peoples radicalized the population in it's leanings towards war. When world war two came around, Turkey stayed Neurtal, and Greece was twiced attacked by Italy, who was repulsed, and then Germany.... in which they didn't do so well against. Afterwards, the British set about rebuilding Greece, but their economy soon began to flounder, and the US came in, just in time of the Greek Civil War, where communist would come down out out of Albania and Hungary to the north and run amuck. This went on for a couple of years till we trained thier Special Forces, and then a while longer to we started throwing fits cause they were misusing thier SF for doing simple details like moving supplies and building stuff, instead of the regular infantry doing it for them. Upon the formation of NATO, which both Greece and Turkey joined, they focused their attention to the north. Upon the collapse of the Soviet Union, and lack of clear mission for NATO, nationalism again began to rise. But then, the earthquakes began to strike, Greece and Turkey was hit, and managed to break the ice alittle when they sent relief forces to each others countries. However, I keep hearing stories about the Statue of St. Michael, so I doubt very much the greeks have given in; I think they're just going with this new found friendship with Turkey in hopes of maintaining peace as well as improving the standings of the greek population in Turkey for a more Egalitarian standing.

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Well, I don't know about imbalance, cause though people can have different intensities of lust, the choices for sex seemed pretty much codified, man or woman. I don't see how a inbalance would make them make this kind of decision. It's not like if thier have this inbalance they suddenly want to make love to chair or book or cat, it tends to be pretty much hard wired somewhere what the acceptable range of options are, the opposite or same sex. An imbalance might give them that extra push the need, but I don't think it is the determining cause for this effect, something else is guiding their sexual logic.

Okay, I'm not against abolishing the military...... or even reducing military spending if we could get away with it; however, I am stumped as to how this sudden influx of money would result is humane punishments over the current practice.

You atarted your anology stacked because you automatically assumed the US in the anology to of disappeared. You stacked it on the very begining without giving a rational explaniation explaining why it would disappear... why what's left wouldn't be legit. It was a poor analogy. At first, I took offense at what you said about my statements being anti-intellectual, but after thinking about it, I accept it the title, but not it's negativity. It is a attack against the intellectual activity of our modern historians who have wasted the times of school children in the western world for for the last few generations argueing a history the that the people of the time would have ZERO understanding of it. It's like a bunch of Marxists rewriting a history of the French and Indian wars in North America.... if you could send thier history book back in time to the people who fought the war, they would stare at it really confused for a good long time trying to make sense of it in relationship to the real reality. I am, however, not ignorant (one can, unfortunately, be ignorant and intellectual at the same time), and history has vetoed the historian. Reality is the only constitution for the historian, and what really happened is against today's theories. Now the question should be, why do we think today that the Roman Empire ceased to exsist at the fall of the Western Empire in the west? What are our weaknesses in apporaching history?

There is two accepted rest positions for the pushups, in neither of them do you place your knee on the floor. First off, make sure that when your doing the pushups, your back is straight, arms fully extended beneath you a comfortable distance apart. Never ever take your feet or hands off the ground, you'll be disqualified. Push down so that your arms break the plain of your back, then rise (if your going to do try out for the Rangers, make sure you hit the ground with a noticible, rapid thud, then rise quickly- trust me, it's the reason why I've been exiled to Alaska, along with half the guys I knew in R.I.P) back to your starting position. Can you still do the sixty-five, or have you found it to be a lot harder? Resuming that original starting position with your arms lock out underneath you, raise your butt as high into the air, high enough for gay men in commercial flights overhead to spot it as a terrain feature. Lean forward and let the bones in your arm take some of the weight of your body. You can bend your knees slightly, but not so much as to support the majority of your body weight (this is an arm activity). If you don't feel gay doing this, your doing something wrong. The second rest position, arms are locked out as before, but you let your butt sag to the ground..... under no circumstances do you allow your knees or crotch touch the ground. Not as gay as the first, but still, not impressive or masculine either. You can rest as long as you want in these positions, but just remember, you got 2 minutes to reach the standard, and you'll want to be able to hit the standard before you join, not after you join.... unless you wanna be a cook or work in finance. Combat arms take PT more serios than the rest.

And so was Brutus!

Felix, sir... what on earth got into you head that convinced you to switch from of all things the navy to the army! You don't go down, you go up: Best is the Coast Guard, Airforce, Navy, Army, then at the very bottom, Marines. Marines flock to the Army, army goes either airforce or navy, and so up. You went against the flow.