I'm still here! Even though the house move is over, there are still lots of loose ends to tie up, so I haven't been posting quite as regularly. Here is a quote from a post on that particular thread:
Interestingly enough, a group of Christians sometime in the third century approached the governor of Bithynia et Pontus, stating that, as they were Christians, they begged to be put to death to effect their martyrdom. The governor replied that he was too busy, but there were cliffs and ropes in abundance throughout the province if they wanted to do it themselves.
It seems that, among literalist Christians in The second and third centuries, there was a desire to 'out martyr' ones friends and co-religionists ( the sin of pride, perchance?). Often crimes such as despoiling of temples and monuments were committed in order to effect that martyrdom. If that were not the case, the Romans would not have undergone the trouble of sporadically outlawing them and treating them as criminals. I am away at friends at present, once reunited with my books I will be happy to provide references, if required. I find the whole subject of the Christian Persecutions interesting, especially the religious propaganda which was woven around the subject in late Roman times, and which persists today.