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The same ease was demonstrated by Germanic Goths when they wiped out Scythians (who are often regarded as progenitors of proto-Russian Slavic tribes) and moved eastwards to settle in Crimea (Gothic language used to be spoken there seemingly till the 2nd half of the 19th century). There is an unspoken consensus among some modern Russian scholars that Slavic tribes formed a coalition with the Huns to drive Germanic Goths westwards from the territories that were once under Scythian/Slavic control. But frankly this all is rather imaginary because Slavs didn't have writing before 9th century. The truth however is that historically Slavs were much easier and more willingly to enter a coalition with the Asians than with the Europeans. Even during the WW2 about 8% of the Soviet military losses were soldiers of the Soviet Turkic minorities.

Yeah, the same topic popped up yesterday in the feeds from ancient-origins https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/attila-0017671 I think we've touched this topic too on the forum not so long ago https://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/19390-a-drought-caused-the-hunnic-migration/?tab=comments#comment-131753 I find the claim a little dubious. The initial push for Huns migration was seemingly due to Chinese who defeated them and drove them away from their boundaries. It could have been that the Huns were goaded to move further westwards by some climate factors, but as we know unlike Central Asia Europe has been mostly covered by forests and has always lacked rich grasslands for horses to graze (with the exception of Alps region, I suppose). Although the proponents of the theory may find some support for it in the books by Soviet historian Lev Gumilyov: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lev_Gumilyov Gumilyov wrote the whole book tracing the roots of Xiongnu (who lately transformed into Huns in Europe). Attached below is a screenshot in Russian highlighting the same idea of climate change that affected Huns migration (it's taken from the book which is missing in the list of references for Gumilyov in the above English wiki-article). I actually saved the screenshot years ago because I found it ridiculously naive 😁

The video mainly touches the religious aspects of the ancient Egyptian world. The narrative draws some parallels of comparison between the Egyptian religious cults and the Christian Bible, confirming the well-known fact of the religious syncretism in the ancient world. The biblical story of the poor in Heaven and the rich in Hell from St.Luke (a milestone of the Christian propaganda for millennia to come) and its parallel with the tale of Si-Osiris is somewhat interesting as it illustrates how well St Luke must have been familiar with Egyptian sources (neither English wiki article on Luke the Evangelist, nor the corresponding Spanish article don't mention Egypt at all, while the Russian article says that St Luke had travelled along the southern Mediterranean coast up to Libya via Egypt, which probably contributed to his later work). I've always been a little sceptical about the factors behind St.Luke's exceptional literary productivity (perhaps voluminosity would be a better English word) compared with 3 other evangelists, always suspecting that there could have been a group of people writing under the common name of St Luke (in mathematics a good example of such collaborative work would be Nicolas Bourbaki - even some mathematicians believe that Bourbaki was a person 🙂)

Well, you are touching too complex question: what is real? Do the images of Putin or King Charles projected by the media reflect their true personalities? The power of propaganda is capable of turning a mature paedophile into a benevolent highly-respectable MP much admired by everyone. So could be the case of St. Pudens too. These days even some renowned physicists, such as American Prof. Leonard Susskind, speak of the holographic principle that guides our universe, while Buddhists take it even further when they say that there is no "I", no Ego at all (so-called "anatman"). So back to Jesus, clearly his image and the whole story around him has been professionally concocted. But does this mean we should refrain from studying the history or stop watching movies about him? The movie series "Altered carbon" is anything but real too, nonetheless it does convey some ideas, which some folks may find interesting. So are the adoptations of the biblical story, ranging from the Da Vinci Code to the Body by Jonas McCord (2001). That's what culture is all about, ain't it? 🙂 Raising new questions, offering new interpretations, sharing new thoughts based on new findings (Dead Sea Scrolls, new excavations in Jerusalem etc) ... Actually, a few years ago I wrote by myself a big post about Christianity. The post was inspired by a number of books that I'd read (esp. 3 books by Rodney Stark that influenced me a lot). The post is in Russian, but just in case someone can read it (or alternatively you can right-click in your browser and try to translate the page into your preferred language automatically): https://topos.ru/article/ontologicheskie-progulki/o-hristianstve-na-osnove-knig-sociologa-i-istorika-religii-rodni Some folks say that my post is clearly atheistic, but frankly when I was preparing it I was just trying to wrap up my own very mixed thoughts into some more consistent shape that could make it easier for myself to understand and to summarize everything that I'd read. The post has collected over 100 likes as I see now, which makes me believe that I ain't quite lost as a writer (professionally I have nothing to do with creative writing, and have to deal more with digits than people)

Sounds like a moan of intolerance to me 🙂 I know of your atheistic attitudes, caldrail, which I happen to share too. Nonetheless my prediction is that within next 10-20 years we'll see a number of interesting adaptations of the ancient stories that've been circulating lately in the public domain, incl. bookstore shelves. Knowledge sharing empowered by the Internet and technology has made it possible for the ideas to spread quickly, so that even ignorant folks like me with no religious education whatsoever could easily pick up the story and follow the research advancements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_of_the_Wind https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10937004/ Looks like a good cast and an interesting biblical interpretation. Has anybody watched it yet?

I'd agree with Caldrail and Dr. Dawkins that Jesus we know from the Bible is a fictional type of character, which emerged as a product of syncretism of ancient cults. There could have been though one or a few real historical characters who eventually merged into what appeared to be the biblical Jesus. The Roman influence in writing the biblical story and shaping the literary character of Jesus is undisputed, and we've been touching this on the forum: https://www.unrv.com/forum/topic/19364-praetorian-guard-praefects/?tab=comments#comment-132380 Romans clearly tried to mollify the flock by portraying Jesus as a peaceful preacher. The real Jesus could have been more like the rebellious Jewish gangster Judas of Galilee who started the "4th philosophy" (terrorism) and was eventually killed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_of_Galilee In fact, some sources even claim that real Jesus shared the common lineage with Judas of Galilee. Anyone who tried to delve into the biblical story thoughtfully must have found a number of inconsistencies in it. I've been collecting them for years by reading what other researchers shared in their publications.

I thought it would be interesting to share the publication that's just come out 🙂 https://www.mdpi.com/1911-8074/15/12/547 In Russia the Orthodox church was also renowned for its wide-scale investments in tobacco imports in the past .. ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Табачный_скандал More info can be found at the below link for someone who reads Russian ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Экономическая_деятельность_Русской_православной_церкви

Well, it all seems to be straightforward .. Jesus doesn't look like a peaceful shepherd when he is delivering a hateful speech like that, does he? 🙂

If the father was always the same, there would have been no Mt 10:34-35 😅

Surprisingly, lions ain't as deadly as often thought

The quotation seems to emphasize the intolerance as if other religions (Islam etc) were misleading and Christianity was dominant Although Islam has such things too (eg hadith 1.24) https://islamichouse.tripod.com/hadith/bukhari/vol1/bvol1-21-30.htm

I wonder what adder and lion are supposed to mean... Does anybody read Latin to translate that bit from the book Jesus holds?

You know, caldrail, I'd always assess other people words by very simple criteria: what new have I learnt from them? You are definitely in my very top 😅 Captain Obvious, that's what they call it in Russia these days

Yeah, I know how Peregrina translates, but still it doesn't mean she was born in Britain or her father was British. Although who knows, this could be true. Sometimes I read in English wiki-articles the stories about Russia which I can't find in Russian wikipedia. One of the latest examples we've been over on this forum is related to Myrmidons, Achilles and their connections with the territory of Russia.

Hi Caldrail, from your answer I reckon you wouldn't know any other significant events which would be related to both Britain and Christianity before Constantine stepped in, or even if you do know you would't want to share it 🙂 I do realize that any Christian story must be taken with a grain of salt, including the story of Claudia Peregrina Rufus. If you open up the below wiki-link and then right-click on it with your mouse, you can select "Translate to English" from the context menu to be able to read the translation of the article in English, it has a few more names of British men (with the links) inside the story. That's why I admire Wikipedia: one can read the same article in many languages, sometimes the same article in different languages highlight different facts. ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Клавдия_(святая) PS. Frankly, I am a little bit suspicious about the British claim in the story of Claudia Peregrina Rufus. The whole concept of her British origin seems to be devised by English writers. So to my surprise Russian wiki-article writers seem to embrace the myth fully.

The image of a man riding or killing a bull was widepsread in the ancient world. Gilgamesh fought the Bull of heaven https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_of_Heaven Indra was associated with the bull when he fought serpent-like demon Vritra. In Iranian Zoroastrian Avesta the first human being called Yima (or Jamshid) was seduced by Ahriman and killed a bull in order to try its meat (English wiki doesn't say anything about this, but the corresponding Russian article does) Prometheus sacrificed a bull too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus Finally, we can also recall the bull-like monster Minotaur from Crete slain by Theseus. The whole concept of this seems purely Aryan, while the explanation is apparently connected with the confrontation between nomadic cattle breeders and settled agricultural tribes. The other explanation can be related to Zodiac and spring equinox. If you check out the below chart the Taurus age was over by the very beginning of the second millennium BCE. I always wondered why there are so many ancient myths related to bulls and even pisces (eg. Christian fishery club), but no myth is seemingly related to rams. It appears that ancient folks didn't view the Aries constellation as ram's head, it was more often associated with a sickle. So the constellation was predominantly associated with farmers and human labor.

The founders of Rome, Remus and Romulus, seem to have claimed their lineage from Aeneas, a survivor from Troy, while Troy was located on the outskirts of the Hittite kingdom. There could have been some exchange of ideas. For instance, Remus and Romulus sucked from the Capitoline wolf, but the same image is also present in Anatolian Turkish mythology if you google by the word Asena. So syncretism was widespread. From the latest link you shared on Hittite mythology Remarkably, there is also a popular drink in Russia and Georgia under the same name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkhuna_(drink)?wprov=sfla1 To me both names sound like Georgian words actually

Hi all, To my knowledge, Britain stood out at least twice as far as the early Christianity is concerned. First to mention is Pope Linus whose mother Claudia Peregrina seemingly was a daughter of a British chieftain subdued by the Romans. Here Russian wiki seems to provide more details than the corresponding article in English. Despite the questionable validity of the details, it is somehow assumed that Claudia Peregrina must have been mentioned in Timothy 4:21 just next to her son Linus and her husband St. Pudens (step-father of Linus?). St Linus is very remarkable, because effectively he was the first Roman pope who suсceeded St. Peter (St. Peter's role as a pope is often regarded as rather fictional, as he might have been brought to Rome only to be executed there). The second time Britain stood out was at the time when Constantine was proclaimed an emperor in York by the troops of his father. While emperor Constantine is very well known to have had a direct relationship to the rise of the Christianity in the empire. Were there any other events between the 2 already mentioned, which would somehow highlight Britain in the context of the early Christianity? Thanks.

It starts as space trance music but the most interesting part of the track is somewhere in the mid

Free thinking was the matter of necessity and competitiveness. But why did you ignore my question about examples of industrialization inspired by monastic orders?

The only example that comes to my mind is wine making and Cistercians with their famous Chablis. But I wouldn't dare to call it "industrialization". What other examples did you have in your mind? Overall I have to say that the role that the monastic orders had to play was twofold. On one hand, they are often considered as a citadel that underlay the proliferation of literacy and knowledge, which eventually culminated in the birth of modern universities (Rodney Stark seemed to share that opinion). We do find some examples of the monastic influence even in mathematics. There is so-called Alcuin's sequence in maths, which got its name from a medieval English monk. On the other hand, many seemed to forget that the monastic orders only sprang out since the 6th century (Benedictines were the first) while the reason for their ascension was very earthly: tax redemptions and fiscal benefits. Monasteries used to be no different from the modern offshores and tax havens for medieval tax dodgers looking to arrange their retirement plans. The reason for the European renaissance lies beyond Europe. It was partially due to Osmans who demonstrated the power of their weaponry when they brought down the walls of unconquerable Constantinople. It was even more due to the influence exhibited by Chinese who invented gunpowder, compass, paper etc. Chinese admiral Zheng He used to traverse the Indian ocean long before Vasco da Gama reached India. The Arab world also seemed to be far more advanced when compared with the medieval Europe. The law of cosines would be known to the Arab mathematician al-Kashi long before Europe learnt it. The very word "algorithm" takes its origin from the name of a region in Central Asia (modern Uzbekistan) and scientist al-Khwarizmi. Arab physician Avicenna (who originated from the modern day Uzbekistan too) used to perform complex eye surgery long before Europe knew it. Even the basics of the probability theory that was so skillfully applied by merchant-bankers clan of Medici was contrived by the Arabs. So effectively Europe was chasing the rest of the world when we say about the emergence of the renaissance. While the Christian monastic orders seemed to have very little to do with all that.

There are actually quite a few tracks which are generally rather mediocre, but also contain some hidden true gem. For instance, in the below track Shangri-La by ELO the most interesting part IMHO starts only in the very end (at 3:46) and lasts only 2 mins out of total of 5:30 mins