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Within Pakistan, there exist three tribes, the Burusho, the Kalash, and the Pathan, which all describe themselves as descendants of Macedonian soldiers that had accompanied Alexander in his adventures of conquest. In 2005, geneticists from Pakistan, the U.S., and the U.K. set out to discover if there is any truth to the legends. The suspects: Barusho http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/cultural/oldwo...ia/burusho.html The Burusho claim that their origins lie in the village of Baltir which was supposedly founded by one of Alexander's soldiers. This is a legend that is apparently quite common in both Pakistan and Afghanistan In 2008 , the Hunza(Barusho) Prince Ghazanfar Ali Khan and Princess Rani Atiqa were welcomed in Macedonia as descendants of Alexander's army to much fanfare. Genetic test results: Afghan and Sinte Romani(gypsy) Kalash http://www.hindukushtrails.com/tribes/kalash.asp Kalash Valley location (Chitral) Some cultural anthropologists have noted vague similarities in Kalash polytheism and Greek polytheism, and the link is also suggested by the overal abundancy of blond hair and blue eyes amongst the native populations. The legends are also believed by the Taliban, who according to some news agencies, target them due to this connection to Alexander. Historians however do not accept that Alexander ever made it this far north and none can pinpoint the land that the Kalash state they originated from, Syam. Genetic test results: Originated in prehistoric South Asia, perfectly clustered in Central Asia, no European influence. Pathan (Pashtun) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashto The oral tradition of the Pashtun have some interesting traditions. One states that they are the descendants of Alexander's army(foundation of Khandahar), and the other states that they are a lost tribe of Israel that was banished by the Assyrians. One specific tribal name is Yusufzai,( son of Joseph). The government of Israel is currently attempting to organize their own study in the attempt of verifying this claim. Genetic study results:WINNER!! Small admixture of haplotype E3b1, which is heavily concentrated in the Balkans, Macedonia and Bulgaria in particular. It would appear that the Pathan/ Pashto people have had an intermingling of Macedonian blood somewhere in their genetic history, but even with this information, nobody can speculate as to when it may have occured. Greek slaves brought back by the Persian Empire, Macedonian colony or abuse of the native population, or directly caused by Hellenization and trade routes? Genetic Study: http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v.....;/5201726a.html

This is the first I have heard of this, as Corinth was supposed to have been a Mycenean city palace that was able to resist the first Dorian invasion and was originally founded as a settlement in the neolithic period. I would be interested as well if anyone has further information.

Epidrome is one of the Greek words used for "suprise attack" and basically meant a type of raid. I haven't read the book you referenced in a while, but if Sekunda is referencing the final charge at Marathon, I can see it as being proper usage as the Persians may not have thought that the Athenians would break formation and charge them, thus being a massive suprise. It may be a stretch but without knowing the context of how it was used, I am just guessing. In reference to its specific uses as a named charge, I can't recall anything ever stating that it specifically meant that; it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist of course, just that I have yet to come across it. Prokatalambanein, and Klope could also be used for "suprise attack".

To put it on your Ipod, you just download the MP3 file, then open it with ITunes?

What bits of Greece do you focus on the most? I am a fan of all of it, but my primary interests are with the Peloponnesian War and the brief period of Spartan hegemony that followed.

I just wanted to present the links to some lectures on ancient Greece by Yale Historian Donald Kagan. http://historyoftheancientworld.com/2010/0...h-donald-kagan/

Syrian Archaeologists: Roman and Byzantine Graveyards Unearthed near Damascus Tuesday, 09 March 2010 18:47 Syrian archaeologists working for Damascus Countryside Governorate has announced the unearthing of 5 archaeological graveyards in old Darya City near Damascus, dating back to the 3rd and 4th Century AD. The discovered graveyards, mostly dating back to the roman and byzantine era, contain tens of skulls, Mahmoud Hamoud, Damascus Countryside archaeology director told local news and media. Hamoud disclosed that some other findings were also found as part of burial materials, including clay and glass tools, bracelets, rings, ring-bells, beads, eardrops, made of bronze, iron, glass, wood, and precious stones, as well as eardrops made of gold. Earlier, Damascus Countryside Archaeology Directorate announced the finding of a basalt-built mass graveyard in 'Ashrafiat Sihnaya', dating back to same period, with several skulls and other burial materials, made of glass, wood, and metal. The number of visitors to Syrian archaeological sites and museums has reached to /2321811/ persons, Syrians, Arabs and foreigners, in the year 2009, Dr. Bassam Jamous, Director General for archaeology and museums stated to Syrian local news.. Jamous declared that such a number of visitors has increased annual revenues by 10.30 percent, with a total sum of / 1437766255/ million Syrian Pounds. Damascus National Museum, Qaser al-Azim, an Aleppo Castle witnessed increasing flow of visitors, due to many performed artistic activities, media promotion campaigns, as well as due to participation in many foreign fairs worldwide, added the director. http://www.english.globalarabnetwork.com/2...r-damascus.html

Here is more on the find, as well as Queen Benehu's chambers which were also recently discovered. http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2010/988/eg7.htm

This is also the only time I have ever heard of Parmenion being referred to as anything other than Macedonian.

Here is a Princeton University lecture that covers this topic. It is fascinating but at well over an hour, you may wish to take it in chunks. http://www.princeton.edu/WebMedia/flash/le..._magnasco.shtml

Welcome to the site. You might find us an odd bunch at first, but we are really very nice Which site do you normally hang out on? chances are if it is a history site I am a member there. ~I have never been strong on the Greeks myself, as I find them second to Rome. I am very interested in all of history, but Rome, World War 2 and Communism are my favorite bits. What bits of Greece do you focus on the most? Over at Historum

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Welcome to UNRV, Okamido. -- Nephele Thanks Nephele, glad to be here.

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Hi everyone, My name is Ron and I hail from San Francisco. I stumbled across this board and decided to hitch up to learn some more about Roman history. I have basically focused on Greece for the majority of my "historical studies", with a transistion towards Rome in the last year or so. I normally hang out at another site and I see a few people here that I recognize from there, hopefully I can contribute. Cheers, Ron

I just preordered a couple of those, thanks for the list.

Prince's Palace Found in Volcanic Crater The residence of Sextus Tarquinius, the prince who sparked the revolt that led to the foundation of the Roman Republic, may have been found. http://news.discovery.com/archaeology/prin...alace-rome.html

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