ASCLEPIADES

Nope.

Felicem Natalem Dies, S!

Nope, but we are in Asia Minor indeed.

Salve, Amici!

We're getting .... ---> !!! Sabratha?

Dougga?

El Djem (Thysdrus)?

Here comes a very brief introduction to the basics of the history of the Greek Language, by Micheal Palmer (based on Geoffrey Horrocks' book, Greek: A History of the Language and its Speakers. "The history of the Greek Language begins, as far as the surviving texts are concerned, with the Mycenaean civilization at least as early as the thirteenth century BCE. The earliest texts are written in a script called Linear B. After the collapse of the Mycenaean civilization (around 1200 BCE) writing disappeared from Greece. In the late ninth to early eighth century BCE ascript based on the Phoenician syllabary was introduced, with unneeded consonant symbols being reused to represent the Greek vowels. The oldest surviving alphabetic inscriptions are written using this new system and date from the late eighth century BCE. In the classical or hellenic period Greek existed in several major dialects, each of which has its own significance for the history of the language, but the most influential of these would ultimately prove to be the one spoken in Athens, called Attic. Well within the hellenic period, though, Attic and Ionic

Salve, GH! All living languages evolve, only dead languages remain unchanged. In fact, by historical linguistics you can estimate the time at which languages diverged (Glottochronology). Modern Greek (Νέα Ελληνικά) is not mutually intelligible with Classical Koine (Κοινή). They are different languages. The similarities and differences between them would be more or less analogous to those between Classical Latin and any modern Romance Language.

Here come Gaius Plinius Secundus Maioris, Naturalis Historia, Libri II, Ch. XXIII: "Rome is the only place in the whole world where there is a temple dedicated to a comet; it was thought by the late Emperor Augustus to be auspicious to him, from its appearing during the games which he was celebrating in honour of Venus Genetrix (Pliny confused the games), not long after the death of his father C

Salve, Amici! Presumably not a meteor, but here it comes the an augustean coin with the famous Sidus Iulum. Also called the Caesaris Astrum, it has been identified as the non-periodical comet C/-43 K1, seen from ante diem XIV to a.d. VII Kalendas Iunius (May 18 to 25) DCCX AUC (44 BC) during the Ludis Victoriae Caesaris celebrated by Octavius (still not Augustus), and identified by the Roman populace as evidence of Caesar's apotheosis.

Salve, Amici! In fact, there a are a couple of recent related threads that anyone interested enough can reactivate ... (and a dozen or more older where you can also go, BTW): Here's the last one, and here's another. Cheers and good luck!

Neither do I. Gratiam habeo, MPC.

Isca Augusta?

Gratiam habeo, Lady N. IOU another.

They went a lot further than that. Russia (Kiev was their kingdom), Byzantium, Iceland, Possibly greenland or labrador, and persistent theories have them on the west coast of america, even central or south america if you want to stretch things to breaking point. Maybe that's a little beyond breaking point indeed. "Persistent" is not the same as "historic", not even "plausible". Viking presence in Central and South America is an extraordinary claim, mainly because if it were true, it might have an extraordinary impact on the interpretation of universal History. That's why extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I don't mean for this to sound rude, but I made no suggestions. And that is not going to change simply by repeating yourself. About your suggestions to me (Post #13) the first and the second require the same database that you demanded (post #2). The third is probably impossible even with it.

Salve, PNS. I basically agree, I haven't found those primary sources either. It

Salve, GM! Yessir, you're perfectly right. This is the other side of the Augustean Weight-Watchers program. Here comes Aulus Cornelius Celsus, De Medicina, Libri I, Ch. III, sec. XIV-XV: "Tenuis vero homo inplere se debet, plenus extenuare; calidus refrigerare, frigidus calefacere; madens siccare, siccus madefacere; itemque alvum firmare is, cui fusa, solvere is, cui adstricta est: succurrendumque semper parti maxime laboranti est. Implet autem corpus modica exercitatio, frequentior quies, unctio et, si post prandium est, balineum; contracta alvus, modicum frigus hieme, somnus et plenus et non nimis longus, molle cubile, animi securitas, adsumpta per cibos et potiones maxime dulcia et pinguia; cibus et frequentior et quantus plenissimus potest concoqui." "So then a thin man ought to fatten himself up, a stout one to thin himself down; a hot man to cool himself, a cold man to make himself warmer; the moist to dry himself up, the dry to moisten himself; he should render firmer his motions if loose, relax them if costive; treatment is to be always directed to the part which is mostly in trouble. Now the body is fattened: by moderate exercise, by oftener resting, by anointing, and by the bath if after a meal at midday; by the bowels being confined, by winter cold in moderation, by sleep adequate but not over long, by a soft couch, by a tranquil spirit, by food whether solid or fluid which is sweet and fatty; by meals rather frequent and as large as it is possible to digest." Like Taoism, Hippocratic medicine was mostly about getting the right balance.

Salve, K! Nope (but please continue reading).

Salve, Lady N! Your project may be anything but little. I'm sure it will be extremely rewarding for all your efforts. The points that I brought up were trying to contribute to the patrician : plebeian comparison on the statistical analysis in some aspects that I felt maybe not all of us were aware of. If these observations are not useful for you, then I won't address these or any other related points again. Actually, I didn't make any suggestion. I have no access to the Broughton's list or database; if you can send it to me and you really think I may be helpful, I will love to try to contribute to your efforts.. I tried not to sound rude; if that was the case, a sincere apology.

Αππιανος (Appian) was an Alexandrian civis (probably an equestrian) active during the Antonine period; he was probably very well aware of the implicit irony of the curious epilogue of his account of the III Punic War (Libri XX, Ch. CXXXVI): " Some time later, in the tribunate of Gaius Gracchus (DCXXXI AUC / 123 BC), uprisings occurred in Rome on account of scarcity, and it was decided to send 6,000 colonists into Africa. When they were laying out the land for this purpose in the vicinity of Carthage, all the boundary lines were torn down and obliterated by wolves. Then the Senate put a stop to the settlement. At a still later time (DCCVIII AUC / 46 BC) it is said that Caesar, who afterwards became dictator for life, when he had pursued Pompey to Egypt, and Pompey's friends from thence into Africa, and was encamped near the site of Carthage, was troubled by a dream in which he saw a whole army weeping, and that he immediately made a memorandum in writing that Carthage should be colonized. Returning to Rome not long after, and while making a distribution of lands to the poor, he arranged to send some of them to Carthage and some to Corinth (destroyed almost simultaneously with Carthage). But he was assassinated shortly afterward by his enemies in the Roman Senate, and his son Augustus, finding this memorandum, built the present Carthage, not on the site of the old one, but very near it, in order to avoid the ancient curse. I have ascertained that he sent some 3,000 colonists from Rome and that the rest came from the neighboring country. And thus the Romans took Africa away from the Carthaginians, destroyed Carthage, and repeopled it again 102 years after its destruction." Caesar's dream was evidently more powerful than the Senate's curse that defeated Gracchus.

Hadrian's wall?

Salve, amici! Caius Suetonius Tranquillus told us a curious anecdote about an augustean tragedy: (De Vita XII Caesarum, Divus Augustus, Ch. LXXXV, sec. II): "Poetica summatim attigit... Nam tragoediam magno impetu exorsus, non succedenti stilo, abolevit quaerentibusque amicis, quidnam Aiax ageret, respondit Aiacem suum in spongiam incubuisse." "His (Augustus') essays in poetry were but slight... Though he began a tragedy with much enthusiasm, he destroyed it because his style did not satisfy him, and when some of his friends asked him what in the world had become of Ajax, he answered that "his Ajax had fallen on his sponge"." It's a joke; Augustus considered his own play so bad, that it deserved "suicide" by being effaced with a sponge, parodying the mythical Ajax's suicide (by falling on his sword) .

Salve, Lady N! Some questions for you, about the cognomen Catilina: What does it mean? Where did it come from? Was LSC (the conspirator and Cicero's enemy) the only one who used it? And if so, why? Thanks in advance.