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Salve, Amici. I have to admit that so far, after a thorough search, I haven't been able to find or figure any rational basis for the House decision.

Gallienus.

Salve, Amici. I can easily understand why the Christian church fathers hated this guy; a humble pagan with an optimistic standpoint despite the penuries of the material world. This Isis true-believer must have been seen as an unfair competitor by Augustine and his fellows, more than any official Imperial cult. The Isis mystery cult clearly had a huge influx on the first Christians, especially concerning their early conceptions of and devotion to the blessed Virgin Mary (Theotokos). I think most of the experiences that he described while being an ass could be seen as a literary metaphor of ancient Rome's slavery; the man treated (and abused) by other men as an object, like a beast of burden. I really love this book.

Booyakasha! GM is guilty as charged.

Felicem Natalem Dies, Lady A.

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Salve, Amici: Caius Suetonius Tranquillus indeed (De Vitae XII Caesarum, Divus Iulius, Cp II): "Stipendia prima in Asia fecit Marci Thermi praetoris contubernio... Reliqua militia secundiore fama fuit et a Thermo in expugnatione Mytilenarum corona civica donatus est. He served his first campaign in Asia on the personal staff of Marcus Thermus, governor of the province... During the rest of the campaign he enjoyed a better reputation, and at the storming of Mytilene Thermus awarded him the civic crown." Loeb Classical Library Editor's Note: "A chaplet of oak leaves, given for saving the life of a fellow-citizen, the Victoria Cross of antiquity." Here comes Aulus ornelius Gellius, Noctes Atticae, Liber V, Cp. VI, sec. XI-XV: "The crown is called "civic" which one citizen gives to another who has saved his life in battle, in recognition of the preservation of his life and safety. It is made of the leaves of the esculent oak, because the earliest food and means of supporting life were furnished by that oak; it was formerly made also from the holm oak, because that is the species which is most nearly related to the esculent; this we learn from a comedy of Caecilius, who says: They pass with cloaks and crowns of holm; ye Gods! But Masurius Sabinus, in the eleventh book of his Memoirs, says that it was the custom to award the civic crown only when the man who had saved the life of a fellow citizen had at the same time slain the enemy who threatened him, and had not given ground in that battle; under other conditions he says that the honour of the civic crown was not granted. He adds, however, that Tiberius Caesar was once asked to decide whether a soldier might receive the civic crown who had saved a citizen in battle and killed two of the enemy, yet had not held the position in which he was fighting, but the enemy had occupied it. The emperor ruled that the soldier seemed to be among those who deserved the civic crown, since it was clear that he had rescued a fellow citizen from a place so perilous that it could not be held even by valiant warriors. It was this civic crown that Lucius Gellius, an ex-censor, proposed in the senate that his country should award to Cicero in his consulship, because it was through his efforts that the frightful conspiracy of Catiline had been detected and punished."

Salve, NM. That's quite exact, and it's true for the Eburones also. Their whole history was covered by Liber V (Cp. XXVI-LI) and VI (Cp. XXIX-XLIII) of Caesar's Commentarii de Bella Gallico, plus some indirect references at Liber VIII (Cp. XXIV). Other Latin sources like Cassius Dio (Roman History, Liber XL, Cp. V-VII,IX,XXXI and XXII) and PA Florus (Epitomes, Liber III, Cp. X) simply repeated what Caesar said; Strabo Γεωγραφία has only a brief mention (Liber IV, Cp. III). They really disappeared.

True, but there may always be some underreported females too.

Salve, GM! Of course you're right. Your turn.

Damascus Salve iterum! Wow... after almost two weeks of inactivity, I'm happy to learn that this thread is still alive . Sorry, it's not Damascus, my dear Nicolaus . (But you are really close, and there are not so many options left, true?) An additional hint: its name is supposed to mean "house of tranquility" in a non-Indo-European language.

Salve, Amici. I think any post or topic that may personally offend another UNRV member, even if inadvertently, should be explicitly avoided. Vale.

Salve, Amici. For the record, I have just changed my UNRV gender status from the "unsettled" to the "male" position. (I suppose there may be a couple of other underreported lazy males)

How long can you hold a nation responsible? The Germans have been held responsible for the Holocaust for over 60 years. They still pay reperations, and yet the NSDAP hasn't held power since 1945. All of it's upper hierarchy are dead. All I'm saying is that the hypocrisy needs to stop. On that example, I think you are holding responsible mainly the individuals (the perpetrators were alive when judged and some of them still are), even if the nation had to dhare the responsability, due to the magnitude of such acts. The Armenian genocide and related events happened circa ninety years ago; it would be very difficult to find perpetrators still alive. Should their descendants be hold accountable for such act? If so, for how long, and for how many generations. As NR rightly states, almost all countries have some skeletons in their closets. And a final curious quotation from en. wikipedia: "In February of 1985, Ugo Vetere, the mayor of Rome, and Chedly Klibi, the mayor of Carthage, signed a symbolic treaty "officially" ending the war (III Punic War) which had been supposedly extended by the lack of a peace treaty for more than 2100 years."

Sorry In this related thread, there are a couple of commentaries about that issue; I would think they are still valid. The short answer would be : Probably no.

Salve, Amici. Nowadays, this would be a typical Hurricane season:

That's certainly a possibility. Another one is that both fragments (FGrH F 127 and FGrH F 128) came from different hands. Or also that Hall's translation was misleading.

Salve, PP. I'm certainly confused, because following the link that you kindly left us to Nicolaus' History of Augustus (1923 CM Hall's translation), I found the following quotation, which I post again for convenience: "FGrH F 127: (8): After this Caesar celebrated his triumphs for the Libyan War and the others which he had fought; and he ordered the young Caesar, whom he had now adopted, and who was in a way a son even by nature, on account of the closeness of their relationship, to follow his chariot, having bestowed upon him military decorations, as if he had been his aide (syskenon) the war." Nicolaus clearly contradicts himself if you compare it with your quotation from FGrH F 128: (13). Then, as you rightly points, the corrected score would be: Lifetime adoption 1 (Nicolaus) : Posthumous adoption 5 (Appian, Cassius Dio, Nicolaus, Suetonius and Velleius). Thanks in advance for any additional clarification.

Salve, GO. Once upon a time (12 days ago) you made a similar question in this related thread; reading carefully your answers (and links) would be probably a good beginning. Valete.

Sorry, but there was another omission from my part. Velleius Paterculus also stated the adoption was posthumous: (Historiae Romanae, Liber II, Cp. LVIII, sec I): "Caesaris deinde testamentum apertum est, quo C. Octavium, nepotem sororis suae Iuliae, adoptabat. Caesar's will was then opened, by which he adopted Gaius Octavius, the grandson of his sister Julia." Final score (up to this moment): 1:4. ie, Adoption during Caesar's lifetime (African triumph) 1 (Nicolaus) versus Posthumous adoption 4 (Appian, Cassius Dio, Suetonius and Velleius).

Salve, LS. I would have liked to be part of the first Constantinopolitan generation.

Felicem Natalem Dies, LB!