Primus Pilus

Fist of all, someone is asking a question and usually when someone asks a question they are looking for an answer not a link. And secondly, im new at this sight, how am i supposed to know which threads are old and which are new. And thirdly, i believe it was you who told me to be courteous in my posts, so instead of telling me what i am doing wrong, you could try telling me how i can solve them. ps: how do i provide a link ( Computers science isnt my speciallty) Oh boy... ok. How to tell if a post is old... At the top of each post appears the date and time it was entered. The original post in question was: Posted Mar 8 2005, 12:40 AM Generally speaking, someone who posted a question a year ago is not still looking for the answer... at least not in that same place. As for courtesy... allow me to quote myself... "Please stop copying and pasting information from other sites rather than providing a link". That is courteous in my opinion. I am not belittling you, calling you names or trying to bait you into an argument. I am simply asking you to please stop copying text from other pages without providing a source link. As for links, you can copy the actual URL (the website in your address bar) and paste it right into the post.

He didnt like that mentioned though did he? Well he wasn't always bald, but I suppose he was getting there by the time the Ides of March 44 BC rolled around.

Boudicas forces were made of iceni, trinovantes and other british tribes. Yes I suppose so, but why did you quote me to say it? My post has nothing to do with the tribes who revolted.

I don't think so. One hallmark of Augustus' career was to try to appear not to be a tyrant, and to look as constitutional as possible. Arresting and killing people simply for their religious beliefs would not have helped his case in trying to just be the "First Citizen." An excellent point. While we clearly know what Augustus was, and even his contemporaries knew what Augustus was, he was still very careful and very concerned with playing the charade. Now I don't know if this would've necessarily helped the Christians if public sentiment was widely against them though.

Please stop copying and pasting information from other sites rather than providing a link Thinkquest Any why are you reviving such old threads?

Additionally, its important to note that early coinage was not propoganda at all, but basic lumps of metal without design or uniformity. Coinage obviously did not develop as a political tool when we simply look at its original usage. They developed as a convenience to aid the economy and because the bulk of society found it a far better alternative to simple barter. The standardized 'value and price' system allowed the economy to grow beyond the simplicity of an exchange of goods. It was only much later (continuing with Rome as the example here) that the treasury and its representing moneyers used the widely available and integral part of the economy as a political tool. Yes barter continued, but it eventually became based upon the standardized coinage system. Once such a system permeates society, the barter does not take place without evaluating how much coinage could be garnered from a direct cash sale. I may have had a sack of grain and know it is worth 1 denarius at market, and you may have various farming tools worth the same at market and, rather than exchange 'cash', we may swap goods, but it was based upon the coinage prices that could be garnered from a direct cash sale. However, if I could sell my grain for 2 denarii and buy your tools for 1, I would sell the grain and buy your tools. Even today people may willingly exchange like goods, but it will always be reflective of 'cash value'. (which in the ancient sense unlike today would not only be based upon the supply and demand of goods but also upon the supply and demand of actual coinage.) Sometimes we also forget that simply because the ancients did not have electronics and computers that they did not 'transact' without ever exchanging the actual coins. Millions of denarii and sestersii were transacted without ever exchanging hands. Barter may be fine in a localized or simple individual transaction but it was ineffective in dealing with the enormity of large scale economics... even in the comparatively simplistic ancient agrarian economy. (and as Pantagathus suggests, this does not even touch upon the need for agreeable economic exchanges, ie coins, in the international trade arena)

LOL

People have been known to translate sentences and phrases... but asking us to do your homework is completely unacceptable.

Or a beer

Here's one for Pantagathus site... Plato quote beer smiley I think I need to be stopped

We talked about that a bit here... A Roman Empire Today I can't quite recall the exact context of the discussion, but you may find a bit of what you are looking for.

You have Britannia just a bit too far away from Gaul. C'mon Pantagathus, you need to be more precise than that! Otherwise, I don't see any other issues ;)

No, neither would I......unless I was wearing my new Roman themed T-Shirt that is. I changed mine a little bit. Lol, its ridiculous how much time I am wasting on this. Galley logo update

Its truly just for fun, its not like anyone will be forced to wear this stuff. I however, hope someone comes up with something that will let me proudly display my geekiness.

Yes, intellectual ideas can be a difficult challenge. If you agree completely with an author's ideas, there are still ways to express the same idea without using the author's exact expressions. As an example I personally tend to lean on the ancients more than modern authors (when possible of course) so I generally have less concern over plagiarising another's work. When I do use verbatim text though I put it into quotes, or italicize etc. and indicate its origin. Vesuvius and the Destruction of Pompeii provides an example as I've completely recounted Pliny's letters to Tacitus. One way to understand if you are plagiarising it to actually practice. Take a simple essay from anywhere on any subject, any author, any place, etc, but it make it on something that you generally agree with or are willing to accept as correct. Take this full essay and paste it right into your word processing program. Rearrange, rewrite and edit it, but don't add anything new to it, simply edit the text of the original. When you are finished, ask yourself... does this look like the same paragraph? No, it probably looks different and could pass off as your own, but it still says the exact same thing and would be considered plagiarism of a literary idea. Now. Take the original essay and try to find two more similar simple essays by different authors on the same subject. Copy and paste them into your word processor if it makes it easier to reference them, but do not actually edit, copy, or alter in any way the actual text in your own writing. You will find that all 3 may have similar qualities but the individual ideas of the authors should come through... making the formulation of your own opinion more challening but also making it easier to avoid plagiarism. Start writing a single paragraph from scratch based on the 3 sources, even if you use the actual text of your source material as a guide, you will find that you start interjecting your own thoughts and ideas into the writing. If you copy one author verbatim, you might find that the second authors work contradicts it, forcing you to change what you've written. Your own style should be evident and you should find that its easier to develop a uniqueness that still might express the same facts, but presents it in such a way that includes your own thought processes and would probably not be plagiarism (though it depends on how well you did I suppose). If the original source is so strong in some opinion or statement of fact, that's when you quote it directly and provide the appropriate credit. I'm not sure if thats very helpful or not or if I am clearly expressing myself here, but I guess what I am trying to say is, just like any other task, practice makes perfect.

We might be going off-topic with the Arthur discussion, but you folks may enjoy this site if you are interested in the Lucius Artorius Castus theory

Ok I know this isn't very good but I was pretty happy just to accomplish something in photoshop I hope this works, I think they are messing with me... Galley Logo

Roman Coin Demoninations Wages were earned throughout the Roman working society, slaves included (depending on the task and the natures of the slave/owner). I once saw a wonderful list of various wages that I recall being in relation to the price reforms of Diocletian (I think), but I can't seem to locate it. Actually I believe it may have been a collection of wages recovered from excavations at Pompeii.

Considering that the true origin of 'Arthur' is open to conjecture and guesswork, why would you believe such supposed detail as to the nature of his knights? The Sarmatian cavalry in Britain (one of the theories in the origin of Arthur's knights) were just that... cavalry. Admittedly they were exceptional horseman and the Sarmatians held a natural affinity with their horses, but otherwise the rest of it sounds a bit hollywoodish.

I'm a bit partial to the pocket logo look as well. I wish I could draw. Alas.

Yes, I am baffled as well. I suppose 2 questions may help me understand. 1) What level of class is this? 100 level history class (generally considered introductory or something more advanced?) 2) Was this an assignment of some sort... or did you simply collect data from a handout and apply it to a map? What I mean is, was this data intended to be related or did you just add it all together to make the map of your own accord?

And his method of quelling the mutiny of the 10th, essentially chastising them as a parent would a child, so affected their sense of pride as soldiers and their personal love of Caesar that they abandoned any thought of disloyalty. Of course, Caesar (or Hirtius, or whomever) has a clear motivation in the way the story is presented, but since there were thousands of actual witnesses to the events and we must assume that the 'meat' of the story is largely true.

Hispaniae is the plural to indicate the 4 territorial diocese reforms of Diocletion. Essentially it only came into being at the beginning of the 4th century. At any rate, I agree with Phil that if you are going to do it, you should probably focus on a single time frame. Phoenicia was Syria under the rule of Rome, etc. You have York instead of Eboracum among many other cities that have been Anglicized. Italy should be Italia, Sicily should be Sicilia, etc. What I mean is, you should be consistent. I assume you didn't label Germania as Germany because its incorrect, why then use the modern term Italy. Provincia was still affectionately known as 'the Province' but officially it was part of Gallia Narbonensis and perhaps part of the 'Alpes' provinces (I suppose that depends on the exact time frame in question). Magna Graecia is much the same thing. It had been known as such prior to Rome's ultimate conquest of Italia, but it was only referred to as such in a nostalgic sense and not in an official capacity. After all it was Rome that ruled, not Achaea or Macedonia. Aside from that I'm not sure why your teacher did not include the numerous other unlabelled areas, but you've done a nice job with what you've been given to work with from an artistic standpoint.

Carried over from some previous discussions scattered in other threads, and via some private conversations... some of us have been having a bit of fun discussing the creation of Roman and site themed t-shirts and other such products. Rather than keep this a private little thing, I figure we make a little bit of a contest out of it. Perhaps we can give the 'winner or winners' a free t-shirt/polo shirt/product of their own choosing featuring their design and we can throw in one of our maps as well. Keep in mind that this is largely just for fun, but maybe we can come up with some 'cool' themes to promote our love of history. (I suppose cool is subjective, lol) Anyway, we found two sites that handle everything from printing to order fulfillment. All we have to do is provide our designs... which is completely free. Once the designs are submitted, these 'shops' charge a set price for actually preparing the items, but nobody is required to buy anything in order to submit designs. You can even set up your own affiliate accout if you want to earn 'commission' on your own design. Zazzle offers a bit better variety of shirt colors and... Cafe Press offers alot more choices in products (not only clothing but items like coffee mugs, bumper stickers, etc.) Now both sites already have alot of related designs already available, so try to come up with something original, or a variation on something that's already there. (Do a search on Rome or Roman to see for yourself). This one struck me funny. When all is said and done, we can set up a poll where everyone on the forum can vote to determine a 'winner'. I'm thinking we could have a couple of categories... perhaps something for pure silliness and something a bit more refined. Feel free to make any suggestions at all as this is entirely open to discussion, but keep in mind the idea is to have fun and to create something legitimate that people might actually like to wear

Good old Phil... he sure is blunt and to the point. Its a nice start, but what is the purpose of the map... might help us to understand what needs to be critiqued?