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Just novels or also poetry and plays? Some of my favourite contemporary novels are , Proust's In Search of Lost Time, Thomas Mann's Magic Mountain, Notre Dame de Paris (Victor Hugo), Tolstoy's War and Peace...the list is endless. "The Late Mattia Pascal" by Pirandello is my favourite Italian novel.

I'm sorry for bringing up an old topic but I would like to thank all of you, though with a bit of delay, and Pantagathus for starting the thread... grazie mille, it was very nice of you!

Precisely.The sacred area of Largo Argentina is the biggest republican complex in Roma. There were originally 4 temples, 3 of them were rectangular and the other was circular. They have been given different letters -A,B,C,D- (for practical reasons). The spaces between one temple and the other were occupied with other buildings and public baths. It appears that the building in tophus (tuff in English?) behind temple B (devoted to Aedes Fortunae Huiusce Diei=fortune of the present day) is the Curia Pompeia. The temple is very easy to spot because it is the only circular one.

In this case I would say "Pro amore patris mei" (which -approximately- sounds like "for the love of my father", but I'm not a native speaker of English so I think someone else will translate this properly), or simply "Pro patre meo" (for my father), as you said. thank you so much u really helped me out a lot and ill talk to my brothers about what they want for our tattoo...now it will really make sense and im totally gonna get it next week..THANKS A BUNCH AGAIN!!! I'm glad I could help, whether to choose simple dativus or ad patrem or the forms with pro is a question of subtle nuances which, unfortunately, I am not able to translate into English, but in the end they all mean more or less the same thing.

Well, not for what you want to say. You can only use Ad+accusativus in alternative to simple dativus, so if you want to use ad you have to say "Ad patrem meum" or simply "ad patrem". Pro patri meo is incorrect because pro always needs an ablative, in fact my suggestion in the other thread was pro patrE meo. I suggested the forms with "pro" for the sole motivation that I have seen them in commemorative inscriptions and they are for no reason to be preferred to the others.

In this case I would say "Pro amore patris mei" (which -approximately- sounds like "for the love of my father", but I'm not a native speaker of English so I think someone else will translate this properly), or simply "Pro patre meo" (for my father), as you said.

LOL indeed

Latin is a flexive language, which means the "function" of the words is in the case desinences. The cases are Nominativus, Genitivus, Dativus, Accusativus, Vocativus, Ablativus (Locativus is often left out). These desinences also vary according to the declination, latin has 5. The name (substantivus) pater belongs to the 3rd declination. Pater is the nominativus (singularis), Patr-is is the Genitivus, Patr-i the Dativus, Patr-em the Accusativus, etc. "To my" (father) can be expressed with the Dativus, whose desinence in this case is -i, so the word you need is "Patri". This is a very short and incomplete explanation of why you need Patri instead of Patris or Pater. I don't know if you meant something like "in memory/honour of my father", in that case it would be "In memoriam/honorem patris mei". I hope this helps.

Haha XD this is too funny. It also made me think of Bailey's BBC news theme tune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lwVhkO_0A8

The site is called Villa dei Vignacci . Darius Arya also discovered the baths of Capo di Bove on the Via Appia. I really hope this complex will open to the public too! Photos here.

XD An offence to good taste really. Someone in France was so concerned they decided to create a garden gnome liberation front lol.

The "official" version involves Jesus' resurrection. Jesus resurrected on the day after Shabbat, which corresponded to the Dies Solis and because of this later became Dies Domini/Dominica (that's where all the variants in the different romance languages posted by Doc come from). I guess it is fair to say that the new cult was influenced by the cult of Sol Invictus (of which, by the way, Constantinus was pontifex), there is plenty of archaeological and literary evidence to support this thesis. Early Christians did change their day of worship from Shabbat to Dies Solis (and later Dies Dominica) so I guess they simply adapted to Constantine's decision to turn the Dies Solis into a festivity.

Hmm...it must be the influence of a certain neighbouring country Just kidding, well done =)

Yes, that's in Musei Vaticani, a statue of Claudius depicted as Jupiter. I agree with you about this one, it seems too well preserved, especially the sceptre...if it's an original it could have had some restauration (addition of missing parts perhaps?), or it could be a copy of an original..but this is just speculation

Of course, Seiano is a small fraction (200 inhabitants circa) of Vico Equense, and you can get there by Circumvesuviana, so if you visited the Sorrentine Paeninsula via Circumvesuviana it is likely that the train stopped there too . The Grotta di Seiano is in Posillipo though (Pausylipon) and it has nothing to do with Seiano (the fraction) which is "near" Sorrento. There are many legends connected to the place, for example one of them says Cicero used to go there to visit Marius, and yes, it is evident that the name comes from Sejanus, who had a villa there . If the "rete civica metropolitana" claims that I think they probably have some evidence, probably archaeological findings or ancient sources, I'll try to research some more about it. As far as the grotto goes, there are different legends and theories about the name..one says it was built by Sejanus himself, it was a speculation by humanist Giovanni Pontano in his treaty "De Magnificentia", but later discoveries confirmed that the place existed before Tiberius. It is more likely that it was designed by architect Cocceo, to link the pausylipon to the military port of Miseno (built for Augustus by Marcus Agrippa). There are so many legends about the place (involving Virgil, Polyphemus..), it is fascinating .

I think their priority at the moment is to tackle camorra.

Hahaha yes, Rome is known around the world for being the European capital of binge drinking XD. This is really sad indeed..taking a pic of the pubs area in Campo de' fiori at night and implying Rome is full of drunkards.. As far as road maintenance goes, it appears that the author of this article never went past the historical centre of the city (which is a traffic-restricted area anyway), because the sub-urban areas -constantly neglected by previous administrations- have undergone a spectacular transformation in the past 5 years, with the result that the so-called "urban decorum" is no longer an exclusive of the central areas. About the Bacchanalia in Trastevere, the bars have always been there, I honestly can't understand what Mr.Veltroni has to do with the prices of drinks. I think there are other capital cities in Europe with far worse problems related to alcohol. Rome is a safe city, you can walk around at night in the city centre without problems. I also think people don't have the correct perception of the flood of tourists Rome gets every year; it is practically impossible to control EVERYONE, from those who get drunk in Trastevere to those who have picnics on green areas (and drop litter) despite the "keep off the lawn" sign to those who, in the Cappella Sistina, keep taking pics of the frescos,ignoring the guard shouting it is forbidden(and that's because the flash ruins the frescos) to those "refreshing" their feet in the fountains..is up to the tourists to behave decently, there are so many people that controlling all of them is simply impossible. About the graffiti..the administration deliberately chose to requalify decaying areas in the suburbs with colourful graffiti -engaging several artists- some of them ancient Rome related, and the result was very good. The statement about the underground trains is false, almost all of the old trains (covered in graffiti, but that's because they were over a decade old) were replaced with brand new ones and they are certainly not scribbled with spray. My personal opinion, and that of another 61% of romans who re-elected Mr.Veltroni last year (the greatest result in the history of S.P.Q.R. elections),is that the man has been a benediction to this city. To get a (very) general idea you can look at this article at worldmayor.com.

Sources for my previous post: Spencer Weart, The Discovery of Global Warming, Harvard U. Press, Cambridge, 2003 (this book is online, see link below) John Houghton, Global Warming, Cambridge U.Press, revised edition, 2004 Paleoclimatology graphs and charts taken from: Arctic Council, Impacts of a Warming Climate: Arctic Climate Impact Assessment, Cambridge U. Press, Cambridge, 2004. Article from Weart's book (Ice Age) @American Institute of Physics. http://www.aip.org/history/climate/cycles.htm General Circulation Models of the Atmosphere: Impacts of global warming (same book) http://www.aip.org/history/climate/GCM.htm#impacts The discovery of Global Warming, hypertext at the American Institute of Physics: http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.html#contents Evidence for Global Warming @NASA website http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Library/G...ng_update3.html

We can dispute that indeed

I think they're good, I like the Carmina Burana in their simplicity..the lexical choices and the plain style. O Fortuna, velut Luna statu variabilis, semper crescis aut decrescis; vita detestabilis nunc obdurat et nunc curat ludo mentis aciem, egestatem potestatem dissolvit ut glaciem. It is hard to forget such an incipit . I had to learn Fortuna imperatrix mundi, Primo Vere and In taberna by heart at some point in school lol, but I liked the Carmina and still do.

Wow..fantastic..=)

Oh well, 38