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Ever read this article? I find it very interesting: http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/2778/87/ Many believe that illegal immigration is reaching such levels that it threatens our national security, and perhaps even our national survival. Others believe that we should give legal status to those who already illegally in our country. We have already done this once, in 1986, and the result was that millions more, seeing that there was hope for eventual legal status, came here illegally, hoping for amnesty. We now have two and one half times more illegals in the country than we did in 1986. If we continue to do this eventually we will reach a point, if we haven't already, where there are so many aliens in the country that they will not adopt our culture, they will not learn our customs, and they will never become Americans. It has happened before. Just ask the Romans. Around the middle of 4th century AD, conditions outside the boundaries of the Roman Empire began to develop which caused increasing numbers of people who were not subjects of Rome to desire entry into the Empire. In 376, a tribe called the Visigoths living in Dacia (modern-day Romania) petitioned for permission to move south of the Danube River and settle in the Empire. Just as there are many here who believe that both sides benefit from the employment of the illegal immigrants, there were actually those in Rome who thought there was some benefit to allowing the barbarians to come in. No one took account of the law of unexpected consequences. Despite their agreement to do so, the Visigoths did not disarm. Because they were armed and the Roman legions were away at the frontiers trying to keep out more barbarians, the Visigoths found they were free to begin looting and plundering. The Visigoths were not alone. Other barbarians, learning of the happy times the Visigoths were having, decided that they, too, would like to participate. The hordes continued to trickle in. Finally, in 407, the Rhine River froze over and thousands of Germanic tribesmen crossed the ice and poured into Gaul. This drew so many legions away from the defense of Rome that Alaric (370-410), the Visigoth King, was able to sack the Eternal City itself. This disaster prompted the legions to withdraw from Roman Britain , never to return. Britain, without the forces of law and order, descended into chaos. France and Spain, after a period of turmoil, became Germanic kingdoms only nominally allied with Rome. The barbarians entered the Roman Empire in order to seek better lives. The Romans thought their economy would benefit from having the Visigoths settle on farms. Aren't we being told that our illegals are doing jobs that Americans won't do and that our economy would suffer without low-cost labor? The Romans changed their laws to give the Visigoths legal status. Once the Visigoths had legal status, Ostrogoths, Alans, Burgundians, and Suevi wanted to enter the Empire and gain legal status also. Compare this with amnesty granted to illegals by the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986. Immediately after passage of IRCA, approximately 2.7 million illegal immigrants received green cards. Over the next 11 years another 1.3 million illegal immigrants were given green cards. An unintended consequence of IRCA was the fact that by the end of 1996 there were already another 5 million illegal immigrants here. They included many relatives of the of the 4 million who had been granted amnesty. It is estimated that there are between 12 and 20 million illegal aliens in the United States. Under proposals being considered by Congress, almost all of these will be given the opportunity to gain legal status and eventual citizenship. According to the Heritage Foundation, over the next 20 years perhaps as many as 50 million immigrants could gain legal status. These immigrants too will have relatives who will want to come to the United States and, just as before, many of these will come illegally. Thus, if these proposals are enacted into law, we can expect an unimaginable influx of illegal aliens. What effect will this have on the laws, the culture and the political structure of the United States? The influx of the Germanic tribes after 408 overwhelmed Roman law, smothered Roman culture, and caused the legions, for the most part, to be withdrawn to Italy. We are already at a point where there are so many illegal aliens in the United States that many feel no need to learn English or otherwise assimilate. However, if they are given legal status, they will become voters. In fact, some believe that a number of illegal aliens already vote in US elections. What will happen if so large a group of unassimilated alien voters remains within our borders? One hint as to what it might be like can be seen in France where there are housing developments into which law enforcement rarely, if ever, ventures. That is to say, there are parts of France which are no longer governed by French law. Is this our future? We are at a crisis point. Either effective action has to be taken now or we face disaster. Rational people recognize that the first step is to gain control of our borders. Next we must do something about the 10 to 12 million illegal aliens who are in the country. Immigration advocates point out it would be logistically impossible to deport this many aliens. However, these people are here to work. If existing laws against the employment of illegal aliens were enforced, the magnet of employment would disappear. Without the prospect of work many or most of the illegals would deport themselves. The presence of millions of people who have no regard for our culture, who speak little English, and whose loyalties lie elsewhere is not a recipe for a healthy country. The prospect of taking action to legalize millions of immigrants and attract tens of millions more illegal aliens is a recipe for national suicide. If that seems far fetched, remember, the Romans thought it was safe to legalize hordes of immigrants. Look what it did for Rome.

Maybe he wasn't a civil rights leader, but there seemed to have been a rise of anti-nordic bigotry during Honorius' reign: http://www.jaysromanhistory.com/romeweb/romarmy/art10.htm http://www.jaysromanhistory.com/romeweb/romarmy/art11.htm http://jaysromanhistory.com/romeweb/enemies/art17.htm http://jaysromanhistory.com/romeweb/empcont/e241.htm http://www.mmdtkw.org/VAlaric.html

Would you consider King Alaric to be a civil rights leader? I've read about the Goths and how badly they were discriminated and them fighting back.

True. Some claim that the Greek gods originated from Egyptian or Berber ones.

http://www.newanimal.org/satyr.htm Could anything like a satyr really exist? Before examining that question through the lens of cryptozoology, we first need a basic definition to work with. The best place to go for that definition is folklore (the modern sightings will be examined afterwards). In legends and mythology, satyrs look like men with pointed ears, horns, and goat legs. They are tricksters and symbols of the sensual life, closely associated with sex and with Dionysus, the god of wine. There were a number of variations on the basic satyr legend. Sometimes there were odd versions of the standard satyr, such as those that substituted the body parts of antelopes or horses instead of goats, and some that breathed through holes in their chests. The satyrs with horse hindquarters and ears were called "sileni." Monkeys of various sorts were once shown to a credulous public as satyrs, even though they do not fit the basic description found in mythology. Much to the embarrassment of cryptozoologists, satyrs are not confined to time-worn mythology. Modern sightings of satyrs have continued, though they are not especially common when compared to the large masses of other hairy humanoid sightings that keep Bigfoot researchers so busy. In keeping with their mythical connection to sex, they are often reported by teens who have been having sex in cars. Satyr-like beings, such as the Lake Worth monster, are frequently interpreted by cryptozoologists as misidentified Bigfoots. The basic idea is that, if the creature that is being reported sounds like a satyr, it can't possibly be a satyr. Therefore, it has to be something else. Two of the most notable satyrs of modern America are the Pope Lick monster of Kentucky and the creature called "Goatman" which is usually associated with Maryland, but this same label is sometimes applied to sightings of satyr-like creatures from any American state, regardless of how far away from Maryland it is. Other creatures of interest are the Chevo Man of California and the Marshall Goatman of Texas. The Maryland "Goatman" is reported as very aggressive, especially towards teenage lovers. It is often seen carrying an axe, and its activities include damaging cars and killing animals. There are also unsubstantiated reports of the Maryland Goatman killing humans. In sightings, it can appear as a standard satyr-like form, or with almost the opposite anatomy: a naked human with a goat's head. Most of the sightings take place in Prince George

The Greeks believed that Zeus and Hera live in Mt. Olympus. But what about the Romans? Did they believe that Jupiter and Juno live in the same mountain... or perhaps in an Italian-based mountain such as Vesuvius or the Alps?

So far, we got 84 people. As for writing, I'm not sure.

Sure, if there's a lot of people in that Facebook group.

So far, we're up to 79 members. But hopefully we'll get more. Gotta popularize Late Roman History!

Ohhhhh ok.

Where there centurions in the Late Roman Military? If so, got any pictures?

I didn't say he was sent by Rome. I called him a Roman missionary, 'cause he was a Roman citizen who was also a missionary.

There's this one DC Comic character named "John Constantine". I'm not sure if he's named after the emperor or not.

Here's a facebook group dedicated to the Late Antiquity: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=info&a...;gid=8525325207 I just discovered it a few minutes ago, but I really hope for more members.