Nephele

OracleBone, you are a member of the Antonia gens, which was both patrician and plebeian. You are a member of the plebeian branch of the Antonii, as you lack a cognomen. Your praenomen is "Gaius", customarily abbreviated as "C.", but you contrarily choose to abbreviate your praenomen with a "G." Your full Roman name is: G. Antonius = jninuoayg -jy +st Welcome to UNRV! -- Nephele

G-Man, these are so beautiful, my gothic eyes are weeping tears of blood. I fall in worship at your feet! I must find their gothic names in anagram! Processia Evilinia = Servilia Caepionis Agatus Vicious & his mother Satanica Baebaiola = Gaius Octavius & his mother Atia Balba Caesonia -- Nephele

With those powers of perception, imagine what he could do as a detective. -- Nephele Unfortunately, he probably can't relate the things he sees into an investigative mindset. His brain takes a photo (as complex as it may be) and simply recalls it later (albeit in exact detail). Of course there are many levels of autism so the capabilities are very dependent upon individual circumstances. As obviously brilliant as he his in this one segment, I wonder even if he could function as a witness to a crime, let alone a detective. I don't mean to discredit him by any stretch (as I clearly have no clue to his capabilities), but only to reflect on how amazing the human brain is. I'm personally familiar with Asperger Syndrome, which is a high-functioning form of autism. In the video, Steven Wilshire doesn't appear to me to be totally withdrawn and incapable of all communication. And, yes, the human brain is a fascinating machine. -- Nephele

Any good reads on that? It'd be mighty useful for my thesis. I can give you a few names of notable gentes that were of Etruscan origin, all of which can be found among the magistrates of Rome's Republican era: Perperna (or Perpenna), Tarquitia, Ancharia, Arruntia, and Volcatia. -- Nephele

With those powers of perception, imagine what he could do as a detective. -- Nephele

Here's the church, here's the steeple, here's another, just without the people! Thank you! Now, you would REALLY make my day and have my undying devotion if you would goth-ercize some famous ancient Romans for me. (That's "goth" as in the subculture -- not "Goth" as in the Germanic invaders). As they did with the celebrities at Freaking News. (See my blog) You could goth up the characters from I, Claudius! -- Nephele

Hahahaha! That's hardcore! And... also my new wallpaper! (But I'm cropping out Fabio & Co.) -- Nephele

I was born in the wrong era.... This music video cracks me up: Chaplin Accompanied by Elvis -- Nephele

Seems to be working now for me! Thanks Moon! -- Nephele

It's hippie music! And they look like hippies in their high school yearbook pictures. I feel an obsessive need to anagram-hippify their names: Ol' McKinnlee (Mike Connell), Denni Lovclad (David Connell), Calim Cloudman (Doug MacMillan). -- Nephele

Yes, excellent information, PNS. Just as an added note... Not all Roman cognomina or agnomina terminating in "-anus" are an indication of the name-bearer having been adopted. There are cognomina terminating in "-anus" which indicate the family's origins from a particular town in Italy, as in the case of Trebulanus ("from the town of Trebula") and Fundanus ("from the town of Fundi"). But since most Roman gens names ended in "-ius", then the termination of "-ianus" (particularly on an already known gens name) would generally indicate adoption. -- Nephele

Brilliant! I especially like the way you worked the illustrations into "your" family tree! -- Nephele

aethos, you have a complicated history, for you are the unacknowledged daughter of Gaius Julius Caesar. Your mother was Cossutia, a girl from a wealthy equestrian family who had been betrothed to Caesar from childhood. But at the age of 17 Caesar broke off the betrothal to Cossutia, in order to marry Cornelia, the daughter of Cinna. Being the young scoundrel that he was, before the betrothal was broken off Caesar got poor Cossutia pregnant (this is unknown to history books!). As a result, Cossutia bore a daughter, whom she defiantly named "Caesariela". This daughter would never be acknowledged by the Julii (Caesar's family), and so she was to carry the gens name of her mother, Cossutia. Your full Roman name is: Cossutia Caesariela = hskrwkoateaeshzlei -ehhkkwz +aaiccus -- Nephele

aethos, can we try your scramble without your middle name included? Your scramble is a bit long. Thanks! Btw, I love your avatar! Chaplin's City Lights is one of my favorite films! And... Welcome to UNRV! -- Nephele

Wow! That's some workmanship! Thanks for that sneak peek, FG! -- Nephele

Thank you! "The Romans Cause a Wall to Be Built for the Protection of the South" (painted 1857). Inscribed over the top of the painting are the words: "ADRIANVS MVRVM DVXIT QVI BARBAROS ROMANOSQVE DIVIDERET" I'm somewhat of a detectrix (like my friend, Flavia Gemina) -- Nephele

Those were good sources provided by P. Nonius Severus. For another quick and easy online source, Wikipedia has a few family trees posted, but you may want to double-check these against another source: Caecilius Metellus family tree Julio-Claudian family tree Severan dynasty family tree And here are some additional family trees from Smith's: Stemma Pisonum Stemma Octaviorum Stemma Drusorum Stemma Manliorum Torquatorum Stemma Pompeiorum Stemma of Caracalla Stemma Seleucidarum Stemma Aemiliorum Paulorum Stemma Crassorum Stemma Ahenobarborum Stemma Sassanidarum Stemma Claudiorum Stemma Laeliorum Stemma Carbonum Stemma of M. Junius Brutus -- Nephele

Ohmygawds! It's the G-Man's birthday and I forgot to photoshop a cake! Have a cool day, G-Man! -- Nephele

Your avatar is a representation of John Clayton, a 19th century lawyer and amateur archaeologist. He was painted as a Roman centurion by William Bell Scott in honor of his efforts to preserve Hadrian's Wall, and this painting hangs in Wallington, a country house owned by the National Trust, west of Morpeth in Northumberland, England. Your avatar is relevant because you share John Clayton's interest in and passion for the preservation of Hadrian's Wall, leading walking tours along it. Okay, what's my mystery prize? -- Nephele

Well spotted! According to Broughton, each of these three 5th century BCE patricians was the sole representative of their gens for recorded magistracies throughout the period of the Republic. -- Nephele

I've deleted that spoiler. Now, G-Manicus, delete the spoiler in your quoted response to me! Quick! Quick! HURRY!!!! -- Nephele

Apologies to all! -- Nephele

EDIT: Deleted spoiler! -- Nephele

In fact, before the Lex Licinia of CCCLXXXVII AUC (367 BC) you find something like sixty nomina among consular and consular rank magistrates' list, most of them plebeian by Late Republican standards. Yes, but the Sextilii, Antistii, and Trebonii were never patrician to begin with, unlike the Cassii, Iunii, and Tullii who were patrician to begin with and then by the Late Republic had become plebian. In addition to your list and the list of the 16 original patrician families provided by MPC according to Forsythe, I can add the following patrician gentes. Some of these had plebian as well as patrician branches, in which case I've included the cognomina which identify the patrician branches: Aebutius Elva (or Helva) Aelius Antonius Merenda Aquillius Tuscus Atilius Longus Cassius Viscellinus Curiatius Fistus Curtius Foslius Geganius Herminius Horatius Iunius Brutus (later plebian along with all the other branches of the Iunii) Lartius Lucretius Triciptinus Marcius Coriolanus Menenius Minucius Augurinus Mucius Papirius (Crassus, Cursor, Maso, and Mugillanus) Pinarius Potitius Sempronius Atratini Sestius Capitolinus Vaticanus Sicinius Sabinus Tarquitius Flaccus Tullius Longus Verginius (or Virginius) Tricostus Volumnius Sorry that this list is incomplete. I just threw it together now, and I'm sure I've missed some patrician gentes with their corresponding cognomina. -- Nephele

If someone needs a hand doing the db part I could do it, from a tech perspective that is.... Not to blow my own trumpet, I'm pretty OK with designing databases in Access, PC and Pompeius - so I'd be happy to help in this project. Like MPC says, I think it would be highly informative, and we could draw some interesting and, hopefully, useful conclusions from such a database. Thanks, Augusta and PC, and anyone else, for all the interest and offers of help! I've been PM'ing MPC and we've got it pretty much worked out. -- Nephele