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Congratulations! How did it go? vtc (vtc - extra vtc for luck in it)

Is it metapontum? vtc

I wouldn't worry too much. The notion of Gaul as a primitive civilization has been long discredited. Considering that the story relates the Roman invasion of Gaul to 52 BC, and that a discovery of such magnitude (if it were a new discovery) would focus on rewriting some albeit popular illustrated books, one should probably just ignore it. It's fairly common knowledge that Gallic architecture included permanent stone structures of various scale. While Celtic Britain was fairly isolated in terms of architecture and art prior to the Roman invasions, Gaul had long been exposed to Greeks, Phoenicians (Carthaginians), Etruscans, Romans, etc. In any case, Gaul was not nearly so primitive, it just lacked some of the large scale societal and organizational sophistication of its southern neighbors. phew, crisis overted vtc

DO NOT GET THE LAST LEGION I do not rate it highly at all, but that is my opinion vtc

uh-oh, this could mean a lot of editing in my book. vtc

Please do. Have you considered making vase of copper flowers mayve with some of the coppwr leaves and trying to sell it at a professional art convention. Who knows you might get more than you think. vtc

lol elephants, precisely severed heads how i laugh I was reading thrugh the first 4 pages of this and thik my views are much like your on the matter, Cato. I'd just add that I'm probably more of a softy for marius which probably slurs my better judgment. vtc edit: i actually had a tear in my eye and it's not even that funny. Thank you Cato.

Indeed, sullafelix you have hit the nail on the head, why say it, unless it will be a formiddable line not a 'lets get on with it' kind of quote. vtc

The romans had slaves, did they not? just a rather lame and unnecessary point but it needed to be made. vtc

Well there were two arrivals before Cook but after 1597 by a dutch crew aboard the ship Batavia, i found out about this many years ago when i played the character Wouter Loos in an amateur production. Here's the wiki article I wouldn't say they lasted long, supposedly one went mad and tried to kill the natives, something like that. Don't ask me to verify anything. Responses? thoughts? Good post Viggen, if it proves to be true i will be amazed. vtc

Very good point. It occured to me that they were incredibly superstitious and both the standard and creating an altar are answers, i had a thought did the standard reflect a particular deity or Rome? I looked at the auxillary horseman as well, interesting to see one, I wonder how formidable just a formation would be cheers vtc ps caldrail - i'd say a denarii a question

yanta? or whatever it is callled in lebanon vtc

I noticed, while reading throuhg the rest of this you thought this thread would soon die around about march is it selcuk, just to get it off the blocks Oh yeah and nothing is easy if you live in aus and haven't visited italy, spain, turkey, africa (at all), the middle east, greece, or the balkans, etc. Anyway i like a challenge as long as i get it eventually vtc

What about Crassus? has he been done? He would definitely be an interesting subject and make for an interesting read vtc

I don't really try to work out anyone's actual name from their scrambles because 1) Often there can be hundreds of possible names resulting from a scramble, and 2) (I know this is going to sound awful) I don't really find people's actual names as interesting as my own creations, and therefore not worth the effort of trying to figure out. In Nephele World, everyone sports an anagram of his or her actual name -- ideally, a darkly romantic or humorously macabre "goth" name anagram. -- Nephele Interesting, I completely understand what your on about as well vtc

If you could give me the same feedback you have my other two topics I would be very happy and much obliged. If it metters i'm still asking particuarly about 2nd century bc although other eras are also fine by me Here goes: Did the legions sing and dance? (like the spartans, in fact spartans brought instruments on some campaigns) Was the plume/crest in some helms gelled like that or something (is it horsehair as well)? Did a legion also have to provide policing services? Was a legion split up amongst a province? How much protection did a rider and more importantly did the horse get, was the saddle similar to todays? How high could a young legionary be promoted? odd question but necessary, lets say he starts right at the bottom. Did legionaries carry whetstones or did they rely on a legion smithy? By what name were you referred to in the legion, d'y'know what i mean (more of a nephele kinda question)? Did legions have their own portable altars or shrines or praying devices? Were there archers? If so were they levied from the surounds when the need arose or were they a permanent part of the army? That's enough for today vtc

On a more random note, if you can (as you did ) find out what the scrambled names are, can you work out my original (just mine though, don't cheat and look at my email address) to try and keep this post thing up. I'll try and ask some more friends if they want theri naem done vtc

The problem with this theory apart from those listed above is that a. sensibly, shouldn't apes evolve into semi-humans anyway b. You can't kill Keith Richards, he has no blood or organs left You can't kill Mark Tremoniti, he is a machine. FULL STOP. thouhgts on a. and b. anyone? Caldrail, if I were an alien *adjusts collar* i would plan for the imminent destruction of cliff vtc ps oh yeah ty for post Viggen

That a very simplistic view of a tense active situation. True, a lot of it was blood and guts fighting to the last man, but then weren't the spartans defeated partly because they were outflanked by a persian ruse? Regarding tactics, if you have a pass and an approaching enemy, how do you deploy your men for maximum effect? How many reserves can you afford to keep back? Do you wait, or do you attack first? Can you build defenses? What sort of defenses? At what time of day or night is the attack to occur? What is the prevailing weather? Do you stand and fight, or fight a delaying action? There's much to consider even in an apparently simple engagement. Did the spartans defend in phalanx? It seems unlikely. The phalanx is not a defensive formation (though it can be so if the enemy attack head on) and works by pushing the enemy back on the field. The problem is that the phalanx is an awkward formation. It cannot easily manoever, it isn't adaptable to changing situations, it tends to drift sideways when marching (because the men are seeking to protect themselves via the man beside him), and requires flat ground to prevent the formation falling apart. Thre was a roman victory over the phalanx because the roman general chose to fight on rough ground, so the much-vaunted pahalanx could not retain formation and therefore lost its primary purpose. Disagree completely. Man for man the spartans were every bit as fierce warriors as the romans (possibly even more so?), but the romans had the edge on operational strategy and I suspect were better organised as an army, though much depended on who their commander was. Caldrail, you really are something, you provide me with a fantastic and detailed insight on everything i say. As i said when your swinging your sword around and lunging the tactics are gone but to get to Thermopylae is where i think the romans would have been more effective. With a more flowing army they could have got more men there and built a more sustainable defence. I'm sort of asking who would win if 1 spartan took on 1 roman? but not really in that context. You said that the phalanx drifts sideways, but when you are squeezed into a valley, that doesn't matter much and weren't the persians coming head on anyway? How do you think the 300 romans would haev coped being betrayed and flanked from the rear, assuming they haev done exactly what the spartans have done, up to this point? vtc

Yes it is, the porta praetoria on the eastern side Sorry ASCLEPIADES, Congrats Maladict vtc

Evidence that the Roman senate was modeled on the Carthaginian? Seems unlikely to me given the vast differences. Whatever Dido may have thought, Aeneas was not her husband. And this is pure fantasy anyway--what the heck does it show about real Punic influences on Roman civilization? subtle slating eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! notice my use of 'probably' and where did i say modelled in there hgsytebuhcutnrj vtc

Modena (Mutina)? Nope, precisely its 110km away from Turin vtc

*puts on glasses* (even though eyes are perfectly fine) Oh yeah it does look like an antler Amazing Lost Warrior vtc

Shall I compare this to that Shakespeare play? This was more quirky (so I estimate). Rough winds may seize the darling Bard's toup