Gaius Paulinus Maximus

St. George is also the patron saint of Aragon, Catalonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Greece, Palestine and Portugal as well as the cities of Amersfoort, Beirut, Ferrara, Freiburg, Genoa, Ljubljana, and Moscow, as well as a wide range of professions, organisations and disease sufferers.

Saint George is popularly identified with England and English ideals of honour, bravery and gallantry, but actually he wasn

It's a sad fact that over here in blighty we English don't give St Georges Day the credit and attention it deserves, unlike the Irish who celebrate Paddy's day like it's going out of fashion. Personaly I'm very patriotic and think St Georges Day should be celebrated. For one, it should be a public bank holiday so people can actually go out and celebrate it instead of going to work. I'll bet a good percentage of people in England don't even know that today is St Georges Day because there's absolutely no promoting of it what so ever, as far as most people are concerned it's just another day.........SAD

Ah, I just realized that this is a book review, not an article on the Roman tribes. I checked with Amazon and I see that the reviewed book, The Voting Districts of the Roman Republic: The Thirty-Five Urban and Rural Tribes by Lily Ross Taylor is only available as a used copy -- and quite a pricey one at that. I'll have to see about the possibility of interloaning this book from another library that may already have it, as I'm not certain I'll buy the expensive used copy for my own library. -- Nephele Yeah, I knew it was just a review but I had my fingers crossed that you'd have the book at your library, but never mind, if you do manage to get your hands on a copy then that would be great because it seems from the review that it could answer a lot of our questions. It isn't even listed on Amazon U.K. so the chances of me getting hold of it are pretty slim and especially at that price a well!!

18!!!! Is that all!!!!!! Happy birthday Antiochus! Have a great day mate.

THIS would be a good place to start looking...... I don't suppose you have access to this at your library do you Neph?

Not that I know of, but what a wonderful project that would make! -- Nephele I thought that it was probably wishful thinking on my part, but your right though, it would certainly make a wonderful project and interesting reading, but to be honest I wouldn't know where to start looking...... Thanks for the info anyway Neph. click HERE for a bit more info on each individual tribe.

Lets not forget that the Patricians were a dying breed so to speak, they were becoming a dwindling force in Rome. Where as the Plebeians were getting bigger, wealthier and more powerful. So I'm guessing that at some stage the Patrician clans would have been only too willing to adopt from a wealthy Plebeian family in order to bolster their ranks. The adopted Plebeians would now carry the patrician name as would their children and so forth. I'm sure that in the beginning the patricians would have rather chopped off their right arm than adopt a lowly Plebeian but as time went b and the number of children grew smaller and smaller maybe they were forced to swallow their pride in order to continue their Patrician name.

I know there were 35 tribes in Rome and that you had to be a Roman citizen to be a member of a tribe, and unfortunately that's about as far as it goes. So what I'd like to know is..... Who or how was it determined which tribe a citizen belonged to? Was it hereditary? Where some tribes more powerful than others? If so, which one's? Is there a list or source that tells us which tribes some of the more famous and powerful Romans belonged to? Here's the list of 35 tribes....... Aemilia (Aem.) Aniensis (Ani.) Arnensis (Arn.) Camilia (Cam.) Claudia (Cla.) Clustumina (Clu.) Collina (Col.) Cornelia (Cor.) Esquilina (Esq.) Fabia (Fab.) Falerna (Fal.) Galeria (Gal.) Horatia (Hor.) Lemonia (Lem.) Maecia (Mae.) Menenia (Men.) Oufentina (Ouf.) Palatina (Pal.) Papiria (Pap.) Poblilia (Pob.) Pollia (Pol.) Pomptina (Pom.) Pupinia (Pup.) Quirina (Qui.) Romilia (Rom.) Sabatina (Sab.) Scaptia (Sca.) Sergia (Ser.) Stellatina (Ste.) Suburana (Sub.) Teretina (Ter.) Tromentina (Tro.) Velina (Vel.) Voltinia (Vol.) Voturia (Vot.) If anyone can add anymore info on the 35 tribes that would be great.

I've had Absinthe a few times, I think it does contain wormwood and aniseed, it tastes a bit like Pernod/Ouzo mixed with molten lava. It's strange, as soon as you've had a drink you can feel your chest burning and if you look, you get like a red flush across your chest, oh yes and it gets you absolutely blind steaming drunk!!!

Today would have been a good day to be in Rome, I've seen reenactors before but to see them marching along the Fori Imperiali with the Colosseum in the back ground must have been pretty special. But this has got to be the best picture..... Can you picture the scene.... The Roman legions lined up for battle when the Primus Pilus says "Right lad's, this is your last chance to go before we get stuck into those barbarians over there, so off you go, the portaloo's are over there on the left.......And remember boys.....Don't forget to wash your hands!!!"

GOOD A nice chilled glass of Carling extra cold really hits the spot with me as does Peroni, Stella, Fosters etc. basically any lager apart from Becks and Holsten Pills. Southern comfort and ginger ale, gin and tonic, Bushmills Irish Whisky (in particular green label) with a drop of water. Red wine preferably a Chilean Merlot. McDonalds strawberry milkshake. BAD Putting any kind of fruit in lager be it lime, lemon, orange??? tomato?????? is just Wrong!!!. Alcopops are a big no no in my book too. Vodka is strictly off the menu for me due to a bad experience when I was younger (about 16/17) which began with a litre of vodka and ended with an hospital bed!!

Thanks mikeal, I've just listened the current iTunes podcast "The Third Macedonian War" It was pretty interesting although I thought the narrator was a little bit on the dull side, but other than that it was good. It's currently on pod cast 26, is there anyway I can get them back dated back to the beginning? i have itunes, so i know if your using itunes, when you highlight podcasts on your itunes and it takes you to the list of subscriptions you have, you hit the tiny arrow next to history of rome and all of the podcasts you have on the history of rome will pop up. the rest of the ones offered can be downloaded by clicking the "get all" button. i personally don't remember what number i started on, im at school right now, so i can look at mine when i get home and send you a pm if you'd like? message me if you need anything else, i might be able to call or something... its also possible that once a podcast gets old enough, they delete them. not all podcast subscriptions do that, but some do... Ahhh I see, thanks for the help. If you don't mind me asking, Why'd you change your name?

The last quotation from Tacitus is also one of my favorites too but I prefer the longer and slightly different translation.... 'Auferre, trucidare, rapere, falsis nominibus imperium, atque, ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant' To rob, to ravage, to murder, in their imposing language, are the arts of civil policy. When they have made the world a solitude, they call it peace. - Agricola (XXX), Not sure which is the correct translation but I just think the second seems more Roman?

Divitarum et formae gloria fluxa atque fragilis; virtus clara aeternaque habetur The glory that goes with wealth is fleeting and fragile; virtue is a possession glorious and eternal. Sallust

Nice one mate, glad to hear it went well. If you enjoyed it, which it certainly sounds like you did, and you get pretty good at it then who knows....You might have the case for a career change on your hands!!! It's got to be better than slogging your guts out day in day out!!

I've just finished The Gracchi, Marius and Sulla by A.H. Beesley, it's quite an interesting read and one of the few books dedicated to these great men of the Republic, so for that alone it's worth buying.

You can get as close as you like to the Ara Pacis, you can touch it, go inside, anything you want..... with in reason. http://www.unrv.com/forum/index.php?autoco...si&img=1644

" is est non nex ut a vir should vereor , tamen is should vereor nunquam orsa ut ago " "It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live." Recipero res quibus fortuna redimio vos , quod diligo populus quicum fortuna addo vos una , tamen operor sic per totus vestri pectus pectoris " "Accept the things to which fate binds you, and love the people with whom fate brings you together, but do so with all your heart." Marcus Aurelius

I absolutely love Jagermeister, it's one of the best drinks/shots around, weirdly it reminds me of my childhood, I think because it smells like cough medicine!!

All this talk of Worcestershire sauce got me craving some so I've just had baked beans on toast with guess what........... That's right lots of Lea & Perrins Worcestershire sauce splashed all over.. MMMMmmmmm. Oh and Wot, Seabrook Worcester sauce crisps are by far the best!!

A favorite of mine for a quick snack is......a bowl of Heinz tomato soup with cheddar cheese grated into until it melts than lashings of Worcestershire sauce to finish it off. It takes about 5 mins to prepare and is absolutely delicious.

Hi Kristian , welcome to UNRV. This site has loads of maps that may be of use to you. http://intranet.dalton.org/groups/Rome/RMaps.html Hope it helps.

Actually, I quite love worcestershire sauce and the flavor that it imparts on food. And I do know how it's made! (I even made my own once...it came out fine, but it was a pain in the arse to get all the ingredients.) I'm with you on this one Doc, a splash of worcestershire sauce can turn an average meal into a great meal.

Thanks for that Wot, It wasn't bad at all. I'm not a fan of Dr Who either, I can honestly say that I've never watched a single episode before....... until now! It was good to see Caecilius, but wasn't he a banker in the Cambridge Latin books and not a marble merchant?? And where was Cerberus the dog I wonder?? Maybe he could have become the Dr's new assistant? I think Catherine Taite needs to stick to the comedy sketches instead of acting. She kept slipping into different characters from her show. And who'd have thought it......The blue box was in the Sibylline scrolls all along!!!