Rameses the Great

Indeed, they fought not for themselves but for freedom, their country, and for us. They sacrificed everything for us and we shall never forget them. They certainly are not a lost generation to us.

I was wondering if anyone read the book Rome by M. Rostovtzeff? I have only begun to read the book, but he ties a lot of Rome's beginning to Greek writing of skepticism only believing archeological evidence. Anyways I would like to know if anyone has read it or if anyone is interested in reading it. I will give you a synopsis of the book First published in 1927 as Volume II of A History of the Ancient World, this monumental book has been long out of print. Brilliantly written, it stands on its own merits and has not been outdated by new discoveries or research. Rostovtzeff's narrative begins in the fourth century B.C., 'just when the Greek world...was falling to pieces politically' and while 'political unification (in Italy) was in full swing...' He concludes with 'the social and political catastrophe of the third century.' In between, he examines not only the political and military events of these centuries, but the social and economic milieu, the personalities, and the minutiae of day-to-day existence Edited by Elias J. Bickerman.

If it must be this way I will talk about pharaonic Egypt. As Andrew Dalby has pointed out a lot of the foundation for technological thinking in Greece was Egyptian. The advanced ways to make structures, the pyramdids, the temples are what I'm getting to. So yes Ancient Egypt. Also remember though, the Greeks viewed the 'white' barbaric Northerners as Keltoi thinking they were ahead of them. The Greeks referred to Egypt as the 'Land of the Gods' so you could see the clash in technology. I am pretty sure throught ANY course of history the Romans and Greeks viewed the Egyptians far differently from Northern Europe.

In general, but to compare Gallic technology to Egyptian technology is not to be compared at all at any time period. Don't forget the Egyptians had a highly sophisticated civilization something people here tend to forget at times.

Of course we have all heard of Caesar's Commentaries. I would just like to know how effective and accurate was it? It seems he depicts it all accurately (from what I've seen) although he seems to exaggerate to some extent, the killing of Gauls in one battle for example. I believe that he has to be the person who most accurately depicts the Gauls and Britons in most aspects. Forget Greeks and Polybius, why does he not get credited enough? I rather get it from the horse's mouth rather than some Greek who decided to write about it, with all due respect to the Greek writers of course.

Egypt? Low technology? I can asure you even the Romans and Greeks were astounded by the technology of Egypt.

I choose Rameses the Great, because of Ancient Egypt he was the greatest pharaoh who ever lived. Also having a term as Rameses the III was too confusing. Also he's the only pharaoh I really liked. King Tut, King Menes, and crew I don't like. Why I don't know why. Rameses the Great and King Thutmose I really like. I like Imothep because of his name, but I am not that Egyptian.

Engineering an Empire. I mentioned it but for some reason the people were not interested. Good link though you seem to have found the one I was looking for. Did you watch it last night Antiochus?

Last night was Carthage, anyone tune in and watch it?

Hannibal did not have a ship but Carthage sure as heck did. Hannibal was a military commander not a naval one so he had no need for ships. If you read the Punic Wars on the forum you will see that the Carthaginian navy was very powerful. Rememeber they were descendants of Phoenicians who were excellent sailors. During the second Punic Wars the reasons why they did not send a navy to stop Scipio Africanus' fleet is numerous. Perhaps they ran out of men, trusted in Hannibal, or could not raise a fleet in time because Punic Wars took a large toll on Roman and more importantly Carthaginian resources. Also the Carthaginian nobles did not really back Hannibal somewhat skeptical, like Caesar and the Senate of Rome.

I'll start off by saying in the Middle East hanging is the primary death penalty for serious crimes. I once saw a movie in which three men raped a lady and were sentenced to hanging. What they did was put the rope around the person's head, and pushed a lever which opened the floor board that made the person dangling. So this is what may or may not happen. As for my take I don't like the ruling. To be brutally honest Saddam was the only one able to keep all the people there in check. I agree some of the stuff he did was worthy of some harsh treatment. He was going to live the rest of his life isolated in a cell I don't know why the sudden change in mind. The court was primarily Kuridsh-Shi'ite majority so the ruling did not come as a surprise. Either way some Iraqis are happy, but the Muslim fundamentalist (radicals) will feed off of this invoking more of a hate for the Western World.

I saw half of Tiberius and all of Caeser last night. What were they discussing about Carthage and how was it tied to young Tiberius?

Kosmo, the only records we have of Dacians were primarily of Roman and Greek records. It was reported when the Greeks found it, it was semi-civilized and when the Romans had seen it, it had attained a good amount of civilization. Kosmo, is this hypothesis correct?

I read this passage in which a man named Ferrero claimed that Gaul was like Egypt. The main source of fertile land in Europe was Gaul. So for some reason he thought since it produced nearly as much wheat as Egypt, and nearly as much linen then it was like Egypt. He states: to have been for Rome a kind of Canada or [American] Mid-west [huge grain producers] of the time, set not beyond oceans but beyond the Alps....Augustus was first to recognize... [that Gaul] was producing grain like Egypt, linen like Egypt, that the arts of civilization for which the Egypt was so rich and famous were beginning to prosper there. Augustus was not the [kind of] man to let slip so tremendous a piece of good luck... He found finally the grand climax of his carrer, to make Gaul the Egypt of the West, the province of the greatest revenues in Europe. Is this a good comparison or is he on something? I can find at least a million things for which Gaul and Egypt were completely different for. My question is: 1. Is this really the greatest accomplishment and dream of Augustus? 2. Is Gaul really comprable to Ancient Egypt?

It's because Catholicism is from the west in Rome and Western Europe. Since the Eastern Empire used Greek as it's number one language Greek was the language to convert people in. For example churhces like in the Russian, Coptic, Assyrians, and Ukrainian churhces have their own language, but some words are in Greek. Since Romans used Latin to convert others, it's the language of their Catholicism. BTW, Alexandrian theologians thought it best to convert the Jewish text to Greek since it was considered the best choice. It was not like it was automatically proclaimed.

Heck of a wrecking crew you got there.

Ah, I think you may be mistaken here. Egypt was generally an agriculutural and peaceful society. There would have been no need for a 'warrior' cult there.

Egging and paintballing a person's house is way out of line. I don't condone any of that garbage, but toilot paper on a tree or silly string could have gotten the point across. Lighting up a person't home and causing harm to a person's car in the night is something a low-life would do. I hope your car is ok and they catch those kids.

Its technology. How it was able to take average knowledge and elevate it into the making of crossbows and Greek fire. People such as Archimedes, and many more scientists who made Greece a very great nation.

Today, well tomorrow for those in America, will be Moonlapse's birthday. So, to one of our moderators here on UNRV who does a heck of a job to make the site the way it is have a good one. :beer: Happy Birthday Moonlapse!

A bust of Aristotle believed to be the best likeness yet found of the Greek philosopher has been discovered near the Acropolis in Athens... Bust of Aristotle found in Athens

Napoleon came close to conquering Europe in a time when it was thought impossible. Scipio Africanus took the strongest army at the time and studied Hannibal and knew how to counter his elephant charges. Scipio Africanus does not get a lot of credit I agree, but does not deserve that much.

I think that this is the minimal sized bottles in Austria and Germany.

America has done a heck of a job putting a roof on immigrants coming in. I think this gives the U.S. a perfect balance beeing in between. In Canada anyone is allowed to come in at will without having to pass a test. When I went up there they were all Indian and Chinese. The sencond language in Ontario is and almost has went from French to Chineses. By the way, the people in Europe don't have much room to talk about our immigration policy. Such as Kosmo stated: In 30 years the predicted prodominant religion in France will be Islam! Since the open door policy and riots of picket signs saying, 'Prepare for the real Holocaust' is not enought to wake up the EU, (Europeans Unconcsious) Europe will be over run with its permission! Fascinating how Liberal Europeans lead people to mass immigrate to their nation and how the Middle East Conservative Muslim Brotherhood are kicking Christians and Jews out of Egypt. Someone made the most sense to a European asking a basic question: European: So what does Europe have to lose with this mass immigration policy? Person: Simple, Europe!

I like the Roman way of dealing with this stuff better. Just get it done.