Gaius Octavius

1. Or, perhaps, he had Sulla in mind. 2. Bingo! So much for principles.

Self promotion I understand. Here, I am speaking of his alleged principles.

What I conclude from that and other readings, is that the Senate had fallen to a low estate; that Cicero 'knew what was good for himself' and bowed to the winds.

Gaius - PuhLease would you rephrase that for the English on the board! Donna Sophia: :wub: "Private dick" = private eye = private detective = Guy Noir (as above) or N.N. now. All disfractuations cleared up? --------------------------------- Sinnerella, bel 'e mom :wub: That site is verboten or geschlossen to me.

:wub: Save for the 'empty', you can add all the other traits. Then you will have an almost perfect picture. -_- Insofar as 'Custard" is concerned, do I detect a reference to my batman's painting efforts?

Try: http://stjrussianorthodox.com/orthodoxy.htm

Back to Romans & Moslems. And, please, no more tests. If you know the answer, don't try to embarrass a member. Thanks.

Theotokos?

"M. Tullius Cicero, Orations: for his house, Plancius, Sextius, Coelius, Milo, Ligarius, etc. (ed. C. D. Yonge) Editions and translations: Latin (ed. Albert Clark) | English (ed. C. D. Yonge) Your current position in the text is marked in red. Click anywhere on the line to jump to another position. Table of Contents Go to THE SPEECH OF M. T. CICERO ON THE SUBJECT OF THE CONSULAR PROVINCES. THE ARGUMENT. This speech was delivered about the middle of the year of the consulship of Cnaeus Cornelius Lentulus Marcellinus and Lucius Marcius Philippus, A. U. C. 698. Before the new consuls were elected, the senate assembled to deliberate on what province should be allotted to them on the expiration of their year of office. The provinces about which the question really was were the two Gauls which Caesar had, and Macedonia and Syria which had been given to Lucius Calpurnius Piso Caesonius, and to Aulus Gabinius, the consuls of the year 696. Several senators had spoken when Cicero rose, and had all, except Servilius, advocated the taking one or both of the Gauls from Caesar, which was in fact what the senate was desirous to do, but Cicero, who had himself been treated with the greatest indignity by Piso and Gabinius, was anxious instead to get them recalled with some marks of disgrace, and to have their provinces assigned to the consuls, and he urged also that Caesar's command should be continued to him till he had finished the war which he was carrying on with such success and till he had settled the conquered countries. This was much against the wishes of the senate and even of the existing consuls, who were principally concerned in the matter so that Philippus reproached Cicero, and reminded him that he had received worse treatment from Caesar than he had even from Gabinius since Caesar had been the real author of the calamities which had befallen him. But Cicero replied that his object was not the satisfying of his own private resentment, but the promotion of the real interests of the republic; that Caesar was deserving well of his country, that if he remained in his province, he would soon reduce all Gaul to subjection, but that Piso and Gabinius were only tyrannizing over and draining their provinces while they were objects of contempt to all foreign enemies. The result was that he brought the senate entirely over to this opinion, and they continued Caesar's command in Gaul and recalled Piso and Gabinius from their provinces which were given to the new consuls.1" From the Perseus Project http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext...Prov.:section=1 ============================ It seems that Cicero was the ultimate cause for the Fall of the Republic.

Is it known why they changed?

"Eleanor put those boots back on, Kick the heels into the Brooklyn dirt, I know it isn't dignified to run, But if you run, You can run, to the Coney Island roller coaster, Ride to the highest point and leap across the filthy water, Leap until the Gulf Stream's brought you down. I could be there when you land I could be there when you land So Eleanor take a Green Point three point, Turn towards the hidden sun, You know you look so elegant when you run, If you run, you can run, To that statue with the dictionary, Climb to her fingernail and leap, yeah! Take an atmospheric leap, Leap and let the jet stream set you down. Could be there when you land, I could be there when you land, Could be there when you land. So Eleanor put those boots back on, Put the boots back on and run, run, Come on over here, come on over here, Come on over here... " Can't run to SoL from there. No water under roller coasters. That's not a dictionary. Brookfordshiresexingham! Eleanore! Very, very deep! Eclectic! Ergogenic! Scrutable! Why in tarnation, would anyone with the sense to get up in the morning want to land in swissconsin?

Deforestation.

One in the movies; one in the stairwell. Go to the stadium!

O! Great! Just wait until N.N. wakes up. May I come to your funeral? I love whitefish, bagels and lox, and all those other magnificent goodies.

Yeah, gonna thrash, "She, who must be obeyed", to within an inch of my life.

Therefor, is there any sequence to "Caesars", regardless as to whether they ruled or not?

N.N., wish I could have said it better! Amen! In the end, Roma Victor!

Dr. A.D., you rotter, you! Actually, I agree with Dr. MPC.

Ursus, as you might have observed, I question and am very seldom dogmatic unless I am sure. You don't know what religion, if any, I hold to. What I am trying to say is to start with the R.C. side. G.K. Chesterton was a Protestant who converted to Roman Catholicism. Try him first.

...And a big pain in the dumper when it comes down to booze.

Drs A.D. and MPC, zero and calculus?

Oh!, you sweetie, how coochie-coo.

I wonder if these aren't the caves that are still inhabited?

According to Dr. Johnson, 'civilization' equals 'city-citizen'. Why are the Far East, Africa, the Americas, Pacific Islands and the swathe of Northern Europe/Asia not mentioned?

Take a look here: http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page