Gaius Octavius

MPC, the Censor, is holding you up. Told you to nail him! As for the other, I am a Patrician, but I don't think that I belong in the 'Patricii' group.

J.R., as the Earl of Brookfordshiresexingham, Cecil extends his thanks, on behalf of the peasantry, to you and your plastered ancestors who undoubtedly sailed three sheets to the wind in doing off with St. P. Cecil provided all copious flagons of Jamesons.

Hold on, where did this start? "Damns" them for what exactly? I've searched on "catamite" on this site and not found anything. Be more explicit, mi Octavi. EDIT -- Oh, I see now. It's the ex-Caesar thread, which hadn't monopolized my attention I'm sorry to say. Well, I agree with you, Octavius. I know of no evidence of Caesar-Octavian sexual abuse. Suetonius doesn't suggest it, does he? He would have, surely, if there had been any such rumours. Gaius didn't want to get himself into trouble - again; nor did he want to be off-topic in the other thread. His last attempt resulted in a 'locked' thread. MPC, Gaius, wig on head, brief in hand, shall return once he is finished doing that which he is charged with.

Are you saying that the Spanish came across them or heard of them?

What is the evidence that damns Caesar and Augustus?

They are a bunch of Huns!

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It looks like to me!

MPC, my PM adds nothing to your repertoire? Je parle Latin comme une vache espangnole. Je pense que vous mean 'sine Augustus'.

If you don't, wanna bet that some wiseenheimer will?

In re that 'other thread' mentioned by me above, there was an information about the Chinese putting a Roman in charge of one of their southeastern provinces.

Until now, the thread seems to see nothing but chaos befalling Rome, ex-Augustus. No views as to a peaceful 'democratic' outcome to the crisis?

Caldrail, did you have to add: "... Now as to whether Caesar demanded sexual favours from Octavian we can't say,....", to what I feel was an otherwise excellent post?

: Something like cricket? Croquet? Crochet? Those must have cured your playing in the rain.

I would like to know how the St. Paddy's Day parades went in London, Manchester, Brigantia, etc.?

I have a brick wall behind my monitor. Should I set to work with a slege hammer?

Does the manor house have fire insurance?

ever get hit by a speeding every 30 seconds or so? Whatz 'rounders'?

DoL, will you also have statues made of yourself? Which goddess will you co-opt as your progenitor? Will you at last get an A/C? L_W, where are your statues? Which goddess is your progenitor? Will you now abandon your cult and adopt the State Religion? Stay clear of Venus, she is mine - all mine! All this done without the permission of this year's Consuls. How regular can this be? Nonetheless, I shall have words with my co-Consul and see if the situation may be regularized. C.O., the god-Consul, feels that the Ladies :wub: , should also be given the Honorific of 'Vestals' and properly inaugurated as such. In this, he is unanimous. Should not the 'Forum' also have a 'Via of Statues', honoring all the Patricii - save one. In this I am also unanimous! Disregarding the above, do you All Mighty Tyrants realize what you have done? You have created a Triumpullate! Soon their Byzantine Feminine Wiles will overthrow the Republic, much to the consternation of MPC, who will then really be driven to distraction.

Ye gods! DoL is also a member of that elite grouping! I shall have to hurl several down on her A/C. Won't be sober for days now. Womens are taking over everything. Can't wait for them to become Tyrants. Perfect Patented Pertimaxii are in order. Congrats Ladies; well earned and well deserved.

Methinks that the beings who get this, would easily be .

I'm passing. Will watch Yankees instead.

Gaius - are you asking if someone else would have instigated the Principate? Or are you asking if, without an Octavian, there would not have been one? It sounds like an interesting topic, but I just need to know from where we start. I'll try to make myself clear. Without Augustus, and therefor his alleged crimes and blunders, who would have led the way to a 'proper' government, 'constitutional' or otherwise? Might it have been Tiberius, Cicero, Antony, Brutus, Cato, or any other man or group of men alive at that time? How should the State have been composed, and comprised of whom? You chose the form of government and the person or people or institutions to run the then Empire efficiently. Again, a government that would not have led to the alleged failures of Augustus or the pre Caesar government. Hope that I cleared up matters.

Again, not to encroach on the 'Ex-Caesar' thread, another dreaded 'what if' thread might also shed some light on members' thinking. Many charges and slanders have been strewn at Augustus' feet. Assume that Augustus died one day after Caesar was murdered. Who, living at that time, would have been the man to have done things 'properly' (as you see them), and why?

Heard on NPR. "Medicus - A Novel of the Roman Empire" by Ruth Downey. A murder mystery about a 'medicus' (Gaius Petreius Russo) from southern Gaul who bought a slave girl and finds her dead. Takes place at Chesters in Britannia. Written with some humor.