Gaius Octavius

In Germany? Monaco?

Well actually if you end with Zama, it was just shy of 8 years... If I err, you correct me. Probably thinking about N. Africa. My point being that when Scipio met Hannibal, case closed.

*El Bumpo*

This is the kind of thing I was hoping would get into 'Academia', be edited, and entered into UNRV's resources. Nice work.

Gaius to the rescue! Stick a feeding tube up your nose; strap some feeding fluid to your head; bang on a drum while whistling Dixie; read your horrorscope from a music stand attached to your ears, and walk into the world. Now you're multi-tasking! Where you use up good air, in kali4kneeya, no one will think you odd in any way.

Civilized? Germany? The USSR? Japan? WWII? Saddam in Iraq? Cambodia? MPC's excellent post says the most of it. Insofar as Hannibal being a great strategist or tactician, it should be pointed out that he never brought the Cunctator to heel. Were his victories the result of his superiority or the inferiority of his opposing commanders? 'Battles are won before they are fought.' Wars are won before they are fought. At Pearl Harbor, the Japanese commander said: "I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant." He did; and his country was lost. Hannibal did not consider the Roman economy nor the Roman HEART, all of which was there for him to plainly see. He didn't see it; he effectively lost his country. Personally, I don't consider a person who lost his country a 'Great Captain'. If you consider him a 'Great Captain', then what do you consider Scipio? If my faulty ancient memory serves, Hannibal wasted 17 years trying to beat the Romans. It took Scipio two years to do the job properly. And Hannibal still carried a chip on his shoulder - until he did the right thing.

Didn't Spartacus break through the trench and breastworks that Crassus set up in Bruttium(?), thinking that he had S. bottled up?

I guess that the Babylonian '6' fits into that, in re 'our' clock. 12 inches? Pantagathus, would you expand on 3,7, and 10?

"Personally, I've no idea as to which side is correct but, I do know that those who deny are funded by those who profit from this pollution. Well, that is if one admits that it is pollution. CO2 is good for trees." Considering the above, I THINK that what the good guys are saying is that the CO2 prevents the release of energy from the Earth into space. Maybe flatulence is the problem. Copernicus was a 'single scientist'!.? I still maintain the Flat Earth theory though. Bouncy ballie ....

If not a communist, then perhaps an artist. After all, he supplied lots of highway signs indicating the results of rebellion.

Although I haven't participated there recently, http://www.roman-empire.net/index.html has a lot of info. The site that I supplied has 'clickable' maps that expand into greater detail.

Even pirates shared their booty even up. Didn't make them communists. Some monk societies actually were/are communists. I think that we are all in agreement (Well, save for where MPC goes off the deep end ). In any event, if I make any more comments, the Tyrants hereabouts will consign me to Tartarus.

Iraq? That's a great line You think?

Ave Flavia: In addition to the above, try "Atlas of the Roman World"; Tim Cornell & John Matthews; Published in North America by Facts on File, Inc., pp. 84(68-70AD) & 108. It contains all sorts of maps (temperature, rainfall, linguistics, etc.) and drawings. You might find 'The Peutinger Map', on pages 116 & 117 of interest. Your artist might get some ideas from the other stuff in this book. Maybe some ideas from: "Atlas of Ancient History - 1700 BC to 565 AD"; Michael Grant; Dorset Press, 1985. This might also be helpful: http://intranet.dalton.org/groups/Rome/RMap.html Happy hunting,

To extend the topic a bit, Cleo, read Adam Smith, Tom Paine and Karl Marx yourself. Then ask yourself if any of the 'isms' have ever existed (as a governmental structure).

Welcome aboard Cleo. Wish that I could add to D.C.'s post.

Political types have been making a better world (for themselves) since fire was invented. So, the BNP will do away with some folk. Been done before. They can practice on some of my in-laws. GPM, if I leave tire treads on two of those guys, might I get a 10 room house with all the attendant goodies?

First, I like your 'Song'. Second, I hope that you did excellently in school. Third, don't be quick in forming opinions and conclusions. For example, did you know that the U.S. was in Ethiopia? My brother's friend, a Special Forces type, got a leg shot off there. Fourth, how many tickets have you accumulated?

Love to read your writing. Bride has Tomb Raider. Daren't disturb 'she who (now) must be obeyed'.

Right on bro! Aristotelian logic at its best! Unparalleled Ciceronian rhetoric! Case closed! All should set up CO2 chambers in their homes to enjoy the profits of CO2.

The wheels in GO's noggin commence spinning wildly. Maybe there is a buck to be made with these preverts. Maybe he can set up an exchange for P's Cordax transvestites and C's slaves! Take a small cut per trade and assure anonymity to all these scoundrels.

GO thinks to himself: Bloody Prevert!

This may be a matter of preference or education. How many people in Austria are on Austrian sites or even care about their history? I would guess that the same goes for all the nations. Other peoples may be fascinated with America. I've never thought of looking for an American site. Doesn't mean that I don't care. Many Americans have never heard of the Korean or Spanish-American wars. Never heard of Tom Paine or Alexander Hamilton.

"Many of the current ideas surrounding global warming are based on one particular theory regarding CO2 as a greenhouse gas. Computer models to predict future trends are based on that idea. But what if that idea is wrong? The available data suggests that CO2 is not directly responsible for mean temperatures and is part of a natural cycle. Or is that politically incorrect?" 1. But what if it's correct? What do we gain by leaving things as they are? What do we lose by trying to change? Money, i.e., our taxes? Well, cut out corporate welfare. 2. "Suggests"? Same argument as your adversaries. 3. "Not"? Politically correct. "Or is that politically incorrect?" Nice try, but no points. I don't like to argue by analogy, but, try this: 1>Because of over fishing, cod at the Grand Banks have practically disappeared. 2> Because of faulty farming methods, the American prairie was turned into a Dust Bowl. 3>Once NYC's harbour was awash with oysters, stripped bass and sturgeon, but, .... Part of a 'natural cycle'? A million kids a year die from cooking smoke. I never put gunk on my unruly hair. All I had to do was walk down the street and let the exhaust fumes do their work. Personally, I've no idea as to which side is correct but, I do know that those who deny are funded by those who profit from this pollution. Well, that is if one admits that it is pollution. CO2 is good for trees.

Mac actually spoke in that phlegmatic, ironic, cynical style. Would have screwed 'Ground's' head off if he got his paws on him. (In 1963, the V.C. didn't have a kite to fly.) He was big enough to do it. Used to look down at me. He could fly an airplane, but I couldn't teach him how to drive my car when we were in school. Once, he told me that he had no idea of how far off the ground his plane was when he was landing it. Neither did anyone else. Controlled crash. Asked me to send him drawers when he was at Pleiku as they always rotted away there. Always beat me at chess. This Scotsman could turn a dead pan face into a murderous scowl when I would beat him at Brisk. Mac had a still in the back of his house. (We both were studying chemical engineering.) The stuff that came out of it was blue with what looked like beaten egg whites on top, and some brown gelatinous gunk on the side of the jar. Once, we made perfume for the girls. Smelled great to begin with then it turned into flatulence. They put contracts out on us. One day, I will tell you about our 'experiments' with gun powder. ------------------------ N.C., bank on it. He is probably thrashing the guys who were holding the 'light at the end of the tunnel'.