Gaius Octavius

Not to contradict UNRV, but to ask a question. After Patrick escaped didn't he go to Gaul, where he became a bishop and then returned to Ireland to convert the people? Lost_Warrior, think of Costello and Eamon de Valera and a little sea battle that went wrong for the Spanish. If you have a drop of Italian blood, you are quite fortunate. Just a drop will improve any race.

Your pop knows his stuff. Haven't you been following the "Wine" thread? For shame!

I'm reliably informed that actors and re-enactors get tired quite quickly hauling the shield around, which is why I believe that for normal carrying it would be better to keep the shield arm straight to avoid strain. The only drawback is the lower height of the shield as you approach. Perhaps the training of a legionary compensated. After all, I'm not used to carrying a shield all day. The legionary was. His training was all year long and the equivalent of modern Special Forces, if not more so. More anon.

They found one in Las Vegas too. Clearly it was built by aliens though, so I don't think it counts. Those aliens migrated from Mexico. It must count, since aliens built the pyramids in Egypt.

A while back on some TV program, it was claimed that the body of a 'princess' was discovered in eastern China. She had tartan like garments that were equated with Celtic garb, and red hair. The jewelry found with her was also claimed to be of a Celtic nature. It was concluded that she was Caucasian via some tests. I don't remember if she was deemed to be 2 or 5 thousand years old.

A pyramid has been found at the Lourve. It is believed that it is made of glass and erected by the Parisii. CIA investigating.

The picture doesn't show much. A shot from above would have been more enlightening. This seems to be more plausable than the Bosnian bit. Certainly, it will lead to the questions about from whence the stones; how did they get there; and how were they erected. For once, I hope some cretin doesn't come up with the 'alien' bit.

It's your birthday! Happy Birthday! Run around, jump around, hop around the table. Fingers in the icing; blow out the candles. Happy Birthday! It's your birthday! Claudia et Gaius :wub:

As usual, Pantagathus is quite correct. The fog is lifted from my besotted, alleged brain. Nonetheless, I will stand (and/or fall) with the migration - metagenesis business, since it does not contradict the afore mentioned learned post.

Hold overs from the Crusades? I am not sure. On another thread, a poster (P.P.?), said that they may have been Celtic auxilliaries settled in present day Anatolia. I am a little wary of that because a province was named Galatea, v.g., Galatians. Migration? Religious metagenesis? It is only a short walk from there to there. These traits are also seen in Turkey and Iraq.

A case of the blind misleading the stooopid. Someone should have chimed in: "Those ears! Those ears! Why don't you get them cropped?"

I don't think that the last several posts are 'attacking' Christianity, rather criticizing what is perceived as defects. Faith and morals are not criticized, rather operations. Hierarchies and telereverendos live in great splendor (now and in the past). These are often caught with 'their pants down', so to speak, not practicing what they preach. Valid criticism, today, can lead to a better Universal Church as it has in the past. Men have and do err and sin. Exceptionally few know the whole story.

They may be tthe descendents of the Celts (Gauls) of Galatea.

Please tell me that you jest. Dan won't put pencil to paper again?! Actually I have heard that the Borghese claim that honor in addition to myself.

Lex: Let's be honest here, we are speaking of Moslems in general and Black ones in particular. Using the Roman Empire as a parallel is false reasoning, even if what you hold is/was so. As you can and will see on many threads here, the reasons are myriad for the Fall. I become highly aggitated when some of these people commit the atrocious crimes that they sometimes do, and want the wrath of God to fall on their heads. As the crow flies, I live about a mile and a half from the WTC and watched it crumble. Three members of my family escaped falling buildings. In Europe, it was the need for labor that drew the initial migrations. Most simply want a better life. Some refuse to assimilate. In the U.S. there was a home grown terrorist who blew up a building in Oklahoma a few years ago. What was to be done with his kind? I think that what most are saying on this thread, is that we must face reality and make the best we can of the situation without painting all with the same brush. Have you ever had the pleasure of experiencing discrimination? Dixi

Komrades: La Belle France beat Espana. The radio trash talkers will be besides themselves. What will the wrong rev. robberson chalk it up to? Metrosexuality? Now I get it! After all these years! The N.Y. Times has been in the forefront of treason and sedition. Thank you pres. chinney! Didn't know that all y'all could read. The Times no less.You had better get under the beds of the miscreants who leaked the stuff. How is the Valerie Pflame affair going? Not to be too nosy, but how's your Halliburton stock doing? We all know that you were much too busy to get involved in the Vietnam business. Have any of your close relatives made up for it in this fiasco? Hey prez, not to be too soliticous, but how's the guy who maliciously got in the way of your blunderbuss? :sniper: Poor flush rimflour! Got caught with unprescribed Viagara. That goes a long way toward explaining his now enforced polygyny. Must pay close attention to his alibi. Don't worry, old boy, your fellow trash talkers are cicrcumlocuting the wagons. Now we have two snow-jobs in the once White House. Now it is a billion bucks plus to put up a memorial to the WTC victims, which will make a bunch of racketeers much richer. How about setting up a fund to educate poor kids. Whoops! Forgot! It's the kids own fault for being born poor. Should pick themselves up by their boot straps. Just like chinney and busch did. Did you know that the herbert-walkers made a pile selling faulty boots to the Union Army. When confronted with this, it was unfolded that they thought that they were for the cavalry. Thank you Wall Street Journal. Just got cracked on the noggin by Domina Claudia. When the question was put to she who must be obeyed, the retort was that it was for future transactions :fish: Sigh,

True, but they aren't 'foreign races', they're all white. The article is refering to the influx of Arabs/Moslems, Indians, Pakistanis and blacks in Europe and Britain. Groups of people who don't share our common heritage. (Judeo-Christian or Greco-Roman) With regards to America I would be refering to the influx of Hispanic peoples. I take it that you make reference to the likes of George Washington Carver, Sen. Inouye, Pena and the Navajo 'Wind Talkers' of WWII note?

The mass migrations of Germans, Italians, Jews, etc., to the U.S. in the 19th and 20th centuries served to help make the country greater than it ever was. Fermi, Einstein, and of course Anheuser & Busch. Might be something else.

I totally agree! My ultimate holiday indulgence is to: take the ferry to Capri from Sorrento, the funicular from the harbour to the Piazetta, to walk five minutes toward the Vila Jovis from the piazetta, to the shop of Signor Bruno Valestra -thence to be smothered in hot towels and regaled with a stream- of- consciousness rant as to why Gianfranco Zola and Diego Maradonna were the saviours of Neapolitan football. I use a "Cyril Salter" badger bristle brush and shaving cream from Napoli.I am smooooooth! I have been saying that all along; Neapolitans are excellent people. Barbers , singers, cooks, etc.

One usually thinks of an 'iceberg' as being large enough to sink the Titanic. I wonder if these were the things Julian saw. White stones from Phrygia into icebergs into climate change into The Fall of the Roman Empire!?

As Virgil alluded to, there are corresponding Rites (in the Catholic Church), to each Orthodox Church. There are also a number of other Rites in the west (Spain and Italy) that may no longer be practiced publically. There is an Ethopian College in Rome. The late Cardinal Agajanian of the Armenian Rite was once considered a candidate for Pope. Some would hold that there have been more than seven Councils. The Orthodox hold the Pope to be 'first among equals'. St. Athanasius was referring to 'True God and True Man' and not to a 'man' alone. Because Origen, or anyone else, said it, doesn't make it so. It just fits nicely into an argument. Orthodox priests may not marry. Married men may become priests. Orthodox bishops are not married. If all Orthodox priests were forced to marry, there would be no bishops in those churches. The priests of the Eastern Rites carry on this tradition. A Greek Rite still exists in southern Italy. The Sacraments of most (not all) Orthodox churches are fully valid in the Catholic Church. It makes absolutely no difference how one makes the Sign of the Cross. The Church started with Christ. A Rose is a Rose by whatever name. Orthodox Christmas is on Jan. 7, because they use the Julian calandar. Most of the differences between East and West can be resolved into 'How many angels can dance on the head of a pin'. Not to mention the sheer politics involved and the splitting of the Roman Empire. Personally, I wonder how many of the priests and pastors of all the churches presently existing really believe anything that they preach. There are very few St. Francis' around. But there is a lot of gold to be had.

Ok, I don't know what it means but I will tell you what I tell my friends all the time. 'The most logical things in the world make the most sense.' P.S. I'm getting out the dictioanary. You are in for it now!