Gaius Octavius

Ah!, yes " If you don't love it (in accordance with the 'super patriots', 'good people' and scoundrels), leave it." Yes, yes, I am now a devotee of that example of freedom of speech and liberty. One might just as judiciously hold that those in favor of that line, commence another Bay of Pigs (no pun intended) debacle - with their dumpers on the line and not sit back safely on their feculators. I refuse to insult you by getting between your ears. The important thing here is what do you disagree with? What do I disagree with? Heavy handed government, be it in the United States, Cuba, wherever. The 'capitalism' in the United States is anything but true capitalism. The 'democracy' in the United States is anything but true democracy. The liberty... is anything but true liberty. Regardless of that, this is my home and I appreciate the fact that there is still a chance for bloodless change. Beshrew you, Moonlapse! Why do you force Gaius to agree with your last post? Not fair! What will some now think of Gaius? Has C. betrayed the cause he has just become an adherent of? Surely, sir, you do not imply that C. is a sarcastic scoundrel? I am a Senator!

I refuse to insult you by getting between your ears. The important thing here is what do you disagree with?

Threads do and should drift; for this implied criticism, I am at fault and do apologize to all. Now, I have always been a proponent of argument by anecdote and exception. As we all know, the likes of Dickens wrote twaddle. How anyone could question the methodology of the sundry censuses conducted in Great Britain is now beyond me. Take Ireland for example. We know that females were a part of these censuses. The Great Unwashed of eastern and indeed northern Europe, at that time in their liberal democracies, had a literacy rate of nearly 100%. That is why they didn't flee in great droves to the Americas where the steets were paved with gold. We all know that democracy and alleged capitalism go hand in hand, the which is proven by the fact that none ever bought a seat in the British Parliament. Or that lords never instructed their free serfs as to how to vote properly. That the likes of Ford never inspected the hovels of their workers (in company towns), to ascertain that they lived, in their poverty, accoding to the the owners' Protestant moral precepts. That Jerry Meander was a fiction. That women were allowed the franchise in the 'Cradle of Democracy' and indeed throughout the western capitalistic democracies. This libel with regard to free speech is disproven by the current warrantless searches and secret courts in MY COUNTRY. An earlier scribbler on this Forum maintained that freedom of speech was for all and not merely for those who belched the party line. This is proven by the fact that the traitors who recently published certain facts that they were fed by the 'good people' never had to spend a day in the slammer for not ratting on the rats. It is a proven fact that all in the U.S. were literate in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. It has also been proven that race, religion, ethnicity and money never reared their beautiful heads when it came to voting and opportunity. The Negro Leagues were a fiction. Catholics were always admired. A dead Italian was never put up for show and tell in South Carolina. Money never was a part of free speech. Union members were never machine gunned by government in such places as St. Louis. Or that government never, but never, raised its hand in favor of employers. The internment of the Japanese citizenry, along with a few Germans and Italians during WWII is a fiction. President Wilson was the Champion, without peer, for the civil rights of those Catholics and Orthodox vomits of Europe. That the American Prohibition amendment was not directed at this wine swilling rabble. I shan't mention segregation and its benefits as this is merely a great Liberal calumny on the nation. Back to Cuba. Once again, I must apologize for my ignorance. It is a well known and proven fact that the free citizens of that isle, ante Castro, lolled on the beaches with Perfect Patented Pertimaxus'; frequented the gambling dens and bordellos; earned great fortunes compliments of their avuncular employers; their approved dictators had the average joker's benefit in mind at all turns. This may be a first for the Forum. I have been convinced of my error by extensive factual evidence and logical, error free, argumentation. Undecieved in my false opinion with regard to logic, argument and alleged democracy. The unfounded propagandistic prattle of egg heads is now cleansed from my soul. Please grant me pardon, absolution and remission for the former abhorent and erroneous misconceptions and slanders contained in my earlier ignorant skimble-scamble. I will do penance at the Altar of the god of Bull Cackle.

Thank you, thank you, thank you Virgil! Even as I was replying to this romantic notion of the benign dictatorship, I was thinking "Where the heck is Virgil when I need him?" I don't think that anyone is antagonistic to the "idea of democracy'. Quite the contrary. The subject here originally was Cuba. But at another level, what logical conclusion puts democracy and socialism or communism at antipodes?

As usual, if one were well heeled, Athens was a 'democracy'. In re censorship, what is the difference whether the government does it or the media does it?

I'll try to clarify my question. In the recesses of my memory, when the Romans were fighting their Italic brothers, they supposedly sent dogs charging into the enemy at the outset of a battle, to break up the enemy charge before the clash. A long time ago I had a chat with a mounted policeman about stirrrups. One of the things he told me was that a crowd usually tries to unseat a mounted officer by pulling at his legs. This usually won't work. the officer has to be pushed over to the other side. From this, I think that a cavalryman could easily be unseated regardless of the number of pommels when he is in close quarters.

Perhaps I misunderstand. Is anyone saying that Cuba or any other nation that has ever existed had a 'democracy'?

Yo!, A of S: Yes? No? What ho? I voted. Wanna guess how?

I believe that at one point in their history the Romans used dogs to attack their enemies. Were they successful and when did it stop? What took the Romans so long to start using stirrups? Seems like an easy enough idea.

The Perils of Pauline? Any better? Work harder than you did getting work, at getting to college and grad school. There are plenty of scholarships available. Don't forget to give Mom a hug; or to slaughter the pizza.

A question: When the Jews were fleeing from Egypt (Exodus) and they were in the Sinai, weren't they worshiping Baal or a golden calf or both prior to Moses giving them The Law? If so, how did this come about?

Ginevra is a member of this Forum. The 'freedom' babe is in your gallery.

Just want to make sure that I'm in on this.

Segestan: The Carthaginians spoke Hebrew?

Unfortunately that is not news. The rats do it every year, usually after midnight. Inflation, you know. Where is your pagan charity? Have pity on these good people. Abramoff is out of the picture now.

P.P.: Perhaps he is concerned about the possibilities of certain parties funding the opposition's efforts and working a snow-job. Perhaps it's none of our business. Perhaps we should take a care of our own democracy. Then go after tthe worlds dictators. Do we have enough boots to go around? Would statistics from the UN be acceptable?

My good woman, I should hope not! :fish:

(brooklyn huh? I am a canarsie native myslef...) Too bad! You know, of course, how Canarsie was named? Better than misshhagin or ohhighyo. Close your eyes and imagine Sophia Loren.

Would suggest that you change your avatar to the 'freedom' babe. Then I could look forward to freedom and Ginevra.

Chalons did not relieve the Empire of his threat. Death did the deed. With that his realm withered; so I guess that a victory at Chalons would have resulted in the same happy ending.

Try private messaging Viggen or one of the Legati and perhaps they can help.

Gini: Your wrong opinion may have been formed by an overdose of the propaganda, prevarications and perjoratives of the 'better' beings. Perhaps Hollywood was of help. An extended excursion to Italy would amend your knowledge. Always keep in mind that in the Book of Culture, all others are mere footnotes - if that. Insofar as 'language' is concerned, a dose of Docoflove will be a good tonic. In the thread Pertinax reccommended to you, have a care as regards Ladino. Depending on where and when it was spoken, it could have been heavily larded with Greek, Turkish, Arabic and Hebrew. Romansch is a Hindustani based language spoken by the Romany. Now, for a digression. What is the status of Rhaeto-Romanic with regard to Latin?