Gaius Octavius

MPC, will be back at you when I have finished re-reading the Philippics. Up to now, you are not in good shape.

One point not in the thread Pertinax makes reference to, is that Ariminius convinced Varus to take the shorter route through the forest and into the trap, rather than the route through the plain as Varus wanted to.

Maybe this will drive MPC out of his bird, but I do try. There is supposedly a Roman hand shake wherein the right hands grasp the wrists of each other. Anything to this? If so,does it mean anything?

He stood up to the nearly the entire political establishment when opposing Verres and his opposition to Antony cost him his life. If that's never taking a "dangerous principled stance against power", what in Hades is???? Also, can you provide your source that Cicero was a self-proclaimed pater patriae? I've read in at least a half dozen sources that it was Cato who declared him thus. I may be out of order with the 'self proclamation' since I am relying on memory (no excuse). It may have been the Sicilian people who gave him that title as a reward for his prosecution of Verres. Verres was not a strong enough 'power' to affect Cicero's career. The Senate may have awarded him that title at Cato's instigation and Cicero bragged about it forever. Certainly there were greater men than him who may have deserved the title but did not receive it, e.g., Scipio. Your logic comes into question as regards Antony. Because Cicero was on Antony's list of the proscribed (?), and not on Octavianus', it does not follow that this was a courageous stance against tyranny and for the liberty of Rome. He may have miscalculated. I ask this in all humility, without rancor or sarcasm, and respecting your knowledge of things Roman; was there ever a time when Cicero or Cato were on the side of the popularies? Did they ever institute legislation to cure the ills of the popularies? What did they do to cure the corruption of the Republic and thus maintain it against Caesar or Antony? For a short synopsis of the causes of the ills of the popularies see: http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/ROME/CRISIS.HTM

Good luck!

Next time a Rottweiler prowling the estate might help matters.

Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Finland, Norway, and China can be added to Greece. The American style military salute was used (and still is) by all the murders cited. Perhaps the Nazi salute was (and is) so reviled is because it was also used by civilians.

Cicero bent with the wind. He invariably tried to ingratiate himself with those in power at the moment. As a New Man and self proclaimed 'father of his country', he never really took a dangerous principled stance against power.

Were the Huns being chased out of Central Asia by the Avars?

As I told a mutual friend Friday, it is the one and only English 'dialect' universally understood.

Yup, A.D., you imply that I know something, anything, about Latin! Barely speak English!

That would be interesting to find out.

Great! What are 'code snippets'?

Ambrosiana: What's a 'defense date'?

Latin is alive and well in Finland. So is Elvis Presley. He is singing in Latin there. The Finns are reporting the news in Latin on the radio. Big slug of their population speaks Latin. Compliments of the BBC. Won't be long before the Vatican sets up headquarters there.

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I wear a kilt!

He used cute ground squirrels! Maybe he should have tried it with chipmunks... My Lord: :notworthy: You must be 'testing' something. You have yourself all wrong! Chipmunks are your pals, and squirrels your mortal enemies!

Oh dear. Didn't you ever invite a young lady to a private showing of your sketches?

Wish that Tom Paine were on that list.

OK, then buy Tonto some underwear.

The judge sounds like the one in "My Cousin Vinnie". :hang:

Supposedly, brokerage accounts are 'insured' by S.I.P.C. (Securities Investor Protection Corp.) for up to $500,000 (including $100,000 cash) and the broker may carry additional insurance - all this for some types of accounts and investments. This insurance does not cover market risk. In any event, the point of this article is that any hacker can get into any investment account and clean it out. This, unfortunately, is also the case with one's bank accounts, credit cards and any other type of financial instrument. I never use a credit card on line. If they won't do it by phone at the same price, then I'll keep my money and they can keep whatever they are hawking. Yet, using a credit card with any vendor is just about as safe as a $100 bill on a sidewalk. One day I'll run a blog on rip-offs in the securities industry that most have probably never heard of. It won't be amusing; and if you think that you have seen my venom - just wait. P.P., I'm going to try to send you a 'joke' on telemarketers. No virus. I've already sent it to some other friends on the Forum.

Scammers are breaking into on-line trading accounts and making unauthorized trades. See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15392442/

Maybe this will help: http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/twelve_tables.htm Also see the home page.