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Ack...Hellenic isn't my strength...but... The Early Indo-European Languages Online site at U.Texas I don't know how useful this is, but that's all I got. Sorry!

Whatever, Don Tomato.

I believe it...when I saw him years ago, I really did get chills from his licks. The man is that damn good.

Depending on the type of music being played, my top 5 (in no particular order): --Jimi Hendrix --Stevie Ray Vaughan --Carlos Santana --Eddie Van Halen --Prince (go ahead, laugh...but listen to "When Doves Cry" or "Purple Rain" and tell me that he wasn't a talented kid who listened to his Hendrix) There are several notable entries which are not in there, true...I think the Edge has a great sound, and many argue that Joe Satriani is a guitar god. But this is my list. (And I hate Zepplin)

Gee, whatever are you talking about? I wouldn't misspell the name of our local Medicine Man! I think I've been working too much...one more long evening tonight, and then a couple of days off.

I stand corrected on the name of the drink...and I pray that Pertinax his Lordship forgives me. As for you, Don Tomato...once again I feel nothing but hot air coming from Brooklyshireblahblahblah

Pshaw...what...EVER.

LW: the one that asked what we were doing in the holiday greetings that GO started. As for the other comments...harrumph...or something like that. I would love to make a Pertimax...but I have no access to ginger tonic, so there goes that. Besides, tradition, and stuff.

Lost Warrior's comment about holiday traditions got me thinking about one in my family: Ramos Fizzes. Depending on who you believe, it was created in New Orleans (by some bartender named Ramos) or in San Francisco (prolly not true, but I'm sticking by this version out of sheer regional pride--and, yes, I truly believe that the martini was created in a bar in Martinez, California...screw NYC). Certainly the recipe in our family is a version of the ones more commonly known...the use of Peychaud's bitters along with lime juice is key in ours. Also, a ton of good gin--well, ok, that's my dad and I, since the bartenders in my family tend to not care as long as the bottle says "gin". Either way, it'll definitely put the Merry in your Christmas...and knock you on your a$$ at the same time. And now, at 9:35am PST on 22 Dec, I give you the Petrucci Ramoz (note the spelling!) Fizz: 1/2 blender cracked ice 3 egg whites 3 tablespoons superfine sugar 1 lime, juiced 3 jiggers half-and-half (the diary kind, mind you) 5 jiggers gin (make it good, please) 3/4 of an eyedropper of bitters (Peychauds, please) and orange flower water Blend together, then add about 1 jigger of lemon-lime soda or club soda. Blend quick, and *hiccup* enjoy!

As to the first question: in fine Left Coast Eye-trallion style: lots of antipasti, vino rosso, and panettone. C'mas eve dinner is manicotti; C'mas dinner is pork tenderloins Oh, and Ramos Fizzes, the other San Francisco treat! As for the second question...I'm guessing timing. And for those of us in other time zones, it's not like it was posted at midnight for us!

Here here, Gaius...you beat me to the punch. Same warm wishes to all--hope everyone celebrates the Winter Celebration of their choice in a warm fashion, full of merry and good cheer. Pass the panettone

Quite often! But their best love song was a George number: Something

Ok, this is all well and good, but the all-time, most sensual, sexually charged song every is Carlos Santana's Europe. It's quite long--7 minutes, I believe--and with his guitar playing, he follows the tempo and rhythm of a passionate *ahem* interlude. Very notable mentions: Marvin Gaye: Sexual Healing is obvious, but almost as obvious is Let's Get It On Barry White: oh lordy...that deep bass voice...ummmmm... Prince: while the lyrics can at time be blunt, I swear to you that Cream, Gett Off, Lady Cab Driver, and so many others...he knows how to get a lady "happy"...also it's wise to note that P-Control and Sexy M.F. are among the two best songs in tribute to strong women. Prince Rogers knows women...period. This from a highly passionate woman...just to clue you males in on what makes us, um, happy (ok ok, it's what makes this one happy)

Great link, Ludovicus!

Another new one on LINGUISTList...for those that are interested: Title: An Introduction to Minoan Linear A Series Title: LINCOM Language Research 06 Publication Year: 2006 Publisher: Lincom GmbH http://www.lincom.eu Author: John Marangozis Paperback: ISBN: 978389586383 Pages: 150 Price: Europe EURO 52.00 Abstract: This work is a study of the Minoan Linear A language, i.e. the language of Minoan Crete in the Bronze Age. The Linear A materials and data which have been available for examination is composed of only 1400 inscribed clay tablets or fragments, and some stone and metallic objects. The method used in the examination and review of each inscription is the scrutiny of the message each conveyed and the qualitative and quantitative information given, its comparison with other relevant inscriptions, its logical interpretation and correlation, the conclusions allowed to be drawn, and the problems that may be resulting or counter arguments which may have to be contemplated. The Linear A syllabary, revised and enriched, was compared to the Luwian hieroglyphic signs; 15 out of 78 signs have a Luwian counterpart; thus no claim of complete similarity can be made. The Linear A glossary contains about 1025 whole or broken words. Most of them are not understood yet. Among those which are understood, 45 words have a Luwian counterpart. Inscriptions on votive offerings are dedications to divinities, like to goddess A.SA.SA.RA (the Madonna of the Luwians) or to DA.MA.TE (the Earth Mother or Demeter). The Linear A Glossary reveals a glossary of terms in food and agricultural products, on metals, vessels and artefacts and on a number of place names and personal names. Most of the technical words were terms borrowed from Sumerian, Semitic or Akkadian languages. The Hagia Triada tablets are a wealth of information on many subjects. There is a series of tablets relating to Minoan religious sanctuaries dedicated to Adu, Tinita and Akaru, indicating the worship in Crete of deities from the Syropalestinian coast. Large quantities of wheat, wine and oil, also of seeds and figs were delivered to these sanctuaries. The Phaistos Disk was continued to be read as a Luwian hieroglyphic document and the information obtained was critically analysed for internal consistency. Linguistic Field(s): Language Description Ling & Literature Subject Language(s): Minoan (omn) Written In: English (eng) See this book announcement on our website: http://linguistlist.org/get-book.html?BookID=22617

New posting on LINGUISTList...for those that are interested: Title: The Sabellic Languages of Ancient Italy Series Title: Languages of the World/Materials 371 Publication Year: 2006 Publisher: Lincom GmbH http://www.lincom.eu Author: Rex E. Wallace Paperback: ISBN: 9783895869907 Pages: 90 Price: Europe EURO 48.00 Abstract: This book provides a grammatical description of the Sabellic languages of ancient Italy, focusing on Oscan, Umbrian, and South Picene. These languages are attested through written documents (inscriptions incised on stone, metal, and ceramic) that date from the 7th century BCE to the 1st century AD. As a whole they form the most important group of languages spoken on the Italian peninsula in the period before Roman expansion. A general overview places these languages within their historical context and describes their relationship to each other, to Latin, and to other members of the Indo-European language family. The principal chapters of the book treat phonology, morphology, syntax, and lexis. Also included is a detailed description of the features of the alphabets in which the Sabellic languages were written. A chapter on nomenclature describes the structure of the onomastic system. The concluding chapter provides a detailed word-by-word analysis of important inscriptions in each language. Linguistic Field(s): Historical Linguistics Language Description Subject Language(s): Italian (ita) Oscan (osc) South Picene (spx) Written In: English (eng) See this book announcement on our website: http://linguistlist.org/get-book.html?BookID=23000

Wheeeeeeeeeeee! Thank you, the Powers That Be!

So this is the first 'Holiday Season' that I've worked in retail sales...and I'm shocked. I'd say half of the people who come into the store are genuinely looking for a good gift...the other half are so disheveled that they don't care, just getting someone a gift to get them something, and not putting any thought into it. Now, admittedly, many are so busy as to put thought into a gift. But still...you could buy someone something that they *might* like...or you can sit for a second, think about what they like and who they are, and try to do something more. Meh, what do I care...as long as they buy from me, it makes my commission check look gooooood! (hah) But, honestly...I'm still the girl with the rose colored lenses and the grey bifocals. The 'Holiday Season', though it is commercialized and capitalistic for many, is still a time to make merry, enjoy life, and hope that everyone else smiles for a brief moment at least. I enjoy it!

Well, they're both (relatively) close-descendants of Proto-Indo-European. When I took my first Indo-European course, we would line up the lexicon and the grammars of Latin (Old Latin when possible), Ancient Greek, Hittite, Sanskrit, Avestan, as well as reconstructions of Old Celtic and Old Germanic...and it was clear that these were related languages. Indeed, a good read of Carl Darling Buck will show that. My dad taught me a good lesson in life: follow the money, and you'll follow the behavior of humankind. We humans always act so as to obtain 'the money'--be it coinage, trade, or anything in between. Trade makes the world go 'round. Two groups of people who trade goods also trade ideas...from there anything is possible. And given the great proximity of the two territories, on top of the naval capabilities and trade agreements with other cultures...of course there was a swapping of ideas! And being that, at the time, the Greek culture and civilization was well-established and the Roman culture/civilization was only starting, the Romans would want to learn what they could from the Greeks, and felt that they could improve upon it. At least, that's how I tend to observe human behavior...I have no factual data to back this up.

I would love to know about this section of Roman history...but have no idea about the topic. I'd love to read about it, via articles or in the forum!

I, too, was highly impressed. I enjoyed Pierce Brosnan as Bond, but the scripts just weren't there for me. But this script was pretty solid (ok, just let your mind go sometimes...it is a movie, afterall), and Daniel Craig has me almost drooling. His face isn't much to look at...but that body! He rocked the gym to get ready for the roll, you can tell that.

Mainly the language, Gods, and some governing methods. Well, with regard to language, be careful here. Yes there were Greek words which entered the Latin language, but I don't know of any examples where the Greek grammar entered into the Latin grammar. They are related Indo-European languages, to be sure, but I don't believe that the grammar of one influenced the other.

Whew...for a second I thought you were being serious about your earlier comment...I've heard it quite often from others!

If this statement is made tounge-in-cheek, hehe. If not...it's utter bullpucky, and is the constant 'excuse' used by bar and restaurant owners. This was a very common response in Austin when the issue was being debated--a very large portion of the tourist money in Austin comes from the entertainment 'district', as every bar, pub, and hole-in-the-wall has a stage of some sort for musicians. So the city of Austin made a deal: if you want to have smoking at your establishment, you can either make it a "smoking bar/restaurant" (and pay for permits), or have a seperate smokers-only room with ventilation (again, more permits). Turns out that most pub/bar/restaurant owners, when they asked their regular patrons, didn't find much resistance to being smoke-free...oh, there was some, to be sure, but voters and people-on-the-street sided with being smoke-free. And this is deep into smokers-paradise, or so they say...not quite Tobacco Row, but of the same persuasion. As for the comments regarding smoking vs. drinking and fast food...hey, in some places in the States there are cities passing "trans-fat free" ordinances, so it's a start. Not saying that it'll work, but it's a start. Drinking? Bartenders are constantly being mussed about by the Alcohol and Beverage Coucils of the individual states for not taking someone's keys away...so no doubt there needs to be more restrictions. But what can you do? Public vs. private establishment...private is meant to be a home or dwelling (apartment, condo, house, etc.), and public is meant to be of commercial or retail use. So, a pub/restaurant/bar is public, not private. A privately-run business, yes, but not a private establishment.

Many California cities have had such a ban for a long time--10 years or so--and it's something I do support. But I didn't realize how much of a difference a non-smoking building makes until I moved down to Austin, Texas. I went from wearing my contacts all the time (in California) to never wearing them when I went out (in Texas), simply because of the smoke. It's a big difference, and I for one do support a ban on public smoking. Now, do it on your own private property all you want...but I like my beer, scotch, and other yum-yums smoke free, thanks.