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I hate to point it out the obvious Doc, but there's more than one engineer in Star Trek. Secondly, O'brien was not the only guy operating the transporter. So did Tasha Yar, Worf, Jordie, the good Captian Picard, and a few other extras. Also, Scotty made an appearance in STNG too. Also, there's no implied connection between Scotty's expertise with the transporter and any event featured in STNG. Now you know what kind of trekkie I am!
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The romans offered their culture packed and ready to go to anyone interested. They were utterly convinced they were the most advanced culture, the light at the center of the universe. By the 1st century AD, a roman writer mentions that the gods had given Rome an empire without end. In exporting their culture, the romans made full use of trade. Both the gauls and britons are mentioned as being seduced by roman luxuries - the britons in particular are sneered at for succumbing to temptation. There seems to be a measure of double standards. Whilst on one hand the romans looked kindly upon nations with the good sense to see that adopting latin ways was a good idea, yet in other ways the capitulation of a culture was a sign of weakness, something the romans abhorred. It didn't. Augustus had undertaken a policy of colonisation in german territory which was proceeding comfortably until Arminius united the tribes against it. The germans were rejecting the roman presence in the same way native americans would object to an alien culture occupying land. The spread of complex civilisation therefore would be as a result of roman influence, since the germans were quite happy as warrior tribes, living hard, playing hard, and fighting hard. The harsh border policies along the german frontier were designed for roman security, not to suppress german civilisation, since the romans believed without their unique guidance a barbarian people weren't likely to progress to their 'elevated' level anyway. Thats because for much of the western empire christianity was a wierd cult, about which some very strange and horrifying stories were told. Christianity only became an official religion in the 4th century, by which time Rome was on the defensive. Early christianity wasn't as pious as it would become. Bishops of Rome were notorious for getting very wealthy off the backs of their flocks, and one wonders if that wasn't the purpose of it in the first place, since the same situation occurs in the modern day. So then, the early christian sects were inwardly flocused, being more concerned with consolidation. Later, when christianity was the state religion, it came under the roman sense of unity and expansion, and from that point seeks to bring the world under one faith, as this was the policy began by Constantine in the 4th century AD. It also reflects the settlement of gernay by barbarian peoples after the disruption of the migrations that put so much pressure on Rome. Its more of a natural evolution than any repression by Rome, given that until the late empire german tribes were often anti-roman and very keen to keep their warrior lifestyle. Once displaced by migrations, they were effectively disenfranchised from their homelands (or at least it was no longer as secure as it had been) and thus became more conducive to raiding. This also reflects the diminishing ability of the late empire to defend its interests, and I should mention that one account of a roman raid on german settlements shows cross-border aggression reminiscent of that in colonial america. That didn't interest the average invading barbarian at all. What they wanted was roman wealth and luxury. Thats why the western empire vanishes after the barbarian coup against Romulus Augustulus. Their reign was so lacklustre it hardly registers with historians - though I accept the traditional view of the end of the west interferes with peoples perspective of that era. And incidentially - don't you think it ironic that Rome began with Romulus and ended with another?
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Was Jesus Caesar?
caldrail replied to Gaius Julius Camillus's topic in Templum Romae - Temple of Rome
The zealot movement in Judaea had more to do with a clash of culture than any specific event. The more hard line jewish people didn't like the roman morality or their insistence on emperor worship, nor were they overly impressed with the roman occupation. -
Ok. The blog's been running for a while, stories are getting thin on the ground, characters a bit familiar and tired, and its slowly metamorphising into Last of the Summer Wine. Time then to... Come with me now - and let me take on a journey through Time and Swindon, to the Land of the Mighty Supermarket... Why is it, whenever I go there, that every old person seems to drift in front of me and block my progress in the search for provisions? You turn left, you turn right, you give up and use the next aisle, and they still block you. These days of course they have those infernal mobility buggies, which aren't designed to negotiate the torturous corners in your typical supermarket. Oh get out of the way Old Person, I want to go... "Excuse me young man. Could you reach up there for me? I want a tin of peaches.." Of course madame. There you go. "Thank you. You're very kind." No problem. Now please get out of the way... Oh no, I've attracted the attention of that young keen security guard. He's shadowing my every move like James Bond after a KGB agent. Heck, I hope no-one saw me putting that bag of vegetables in my shopping basket... Then there's that spooky check-out lady, the one who started a few weeks ago. She's nearly ready for a bus pass too. As she lifts my bottles of coloured water through the barcode reader, she says "Good value these, aren't they?" Yes. Yes they are. Thats why I buy them. Hasn't that possibility occured to you yet? Or that you've asked the same question each time I've used this lane at the check-out - Am I stuck in some sort of time loop? Condemned forever to pass through this ladies check out lane? No. If I've learned anything from endless repeats of Star Trek Next Generation, there's always a way to break the cycle. Come on Caldrail, what would a trekkie do in a situation like this? Ah yes. Beam me up Scotty.... Undiscovered Tribe of the Week In Brazil a previously undiscovered tribe has been found in the Amazon jungle.Sorry guys, even you can't escape my blog.
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Was Jesus Caesar?
caldrail replied to Gaius Julius Camillus's topic in Templum Romae - Temple of Rome
Exactly my point. He failed. But we are told that Jesus walked on water, fed thousands from nowhere, cured the sick and disabled by laying on hands. After three years of that, Jesus would have been the talk of the province and beyond. This was a world where no-one had home entertainment, and people would have discussed a miracle worker for sure. -
Sander van Dorst.
caldrail replied to Gaius Octavius's topic in Gloria Exercitus - 'Glory of the Army'
the power of patrician censor census- the listing of Roman citizen for tax and military service purposes regimen morum- investigating the morals of the members of the class citizen recognitio- the power to grants new upward class status to men of virtue A Handbook of Universal History, William H. Tillinghast The power to grant new upward class status? But was that an exclusive right? In any case, the censor is only formalising an existing situation. If a man reaches the necessary qualification to be admitted to the senate, then the cenors role makkes sense, as he's confirming this mans achievement and making it clear to the senate that he has become a member of their select club. The only reason this power existed was because the numbers in the senate were limited, in order to maintain status and privilege. I think you'll find the censors power to elevate a man were done as a confirmation, not as an executive decision, and that he would not concern himself with lesser ranks overly. In any case, there were plenty of romans pretending to be something they weren't. Slaves pretended to be free men, free men pretended to be slaves. Certainly if caught these people were hauled in front of a magistrate, but did the censor worry about that? He was there as a senate membership auditor. Further, he had no jurisdiction of the roman military as far as I can see, and military service was one way to advance your status. A man promoted from the ranks to centurion was already operating in a role considered worthy of equites. The censor had no involvement in that. -
Was Jesus Caesar?
caldrail replied to Gaius Julius Camillus's topic in Templum Romae - Temple of Rome
I'm sure the Bible is authentic. The events described are more open to question. (Though the new testament is as good a contemporary text about life under Roman rule from a provincial's viewpoint that any historian can dream of getting.) Ok, I see your point. But the issue is whether the events of Jesus's life are accurate and it doesn't seem likely does it? -
Were legionaries vegetarians?
caldrail replied to WotWotius's topic in Gloria Exercitus - 'Glory of the Army'
The staple diet of legionaries waswhatever they could make from their rations of wheat, so that would be bread, pasta, or porridge. (The early romans were derided as porridge eaters). However, I seriously do not believe they were veggies as such. Barley for instance was considered an animal food, given to legionaries as food for punishment. Meat was eaten as and when. After all, if a roman legion is on campaign and supplies are short, you take what you can find. You forage, you requisition livestock from civilians. No soldier goes hungry when civilians have food of any sort. Also, if you have the same diet day after day after day, wouldn't you welcome something different? -
i understand exactly what you mean Moonlapse. The Legend of Old Gregg episode is notorious for freaking people out and yes, it did freak me too. The first series of Mighty Boosh is oddly happy go lucky, even when discussing issues like death (it is a comedy for crying out loud). The second series however is actually better, but darker. For instance, Nightmare of Milky Joe turns the Tom Hanks movie about being castaway into a sort of Lord of the Flies scenario but with coconut people instead of kids. Its funny as heck, but its almost like comedy using the Dark Side..
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Was Jesus Caesar?
caldrail replied to Gaius Julius Camillus's topic in Templum Romae - Temple of Rome
A fine arguement, but not necessarily one Jesus used. The problem with quoting from the bible is that it relies on the Bibles's authenticity, which is suspect. -
Sander van Dorst.
caldrail replied to Gaius Octavius's topic in Gloria Exercitus - 'Glory of the Army'
The Comitia Curiata was based on the original three tribes of Rome, or more precisely, the thirty curiae that it divided into. Originally this meant the warrior bands and thus has a military-esque origin, since men who had fought for Rome were accorded better status - the origin of patrician families is that of these warriors. The Comitia Centuriata on the other hand was based on the centuries as developed later - but for much the same reasons - and had a system of 193 voting blocks to which citizens could apply their vote. The Comitia Tributa had a much simpler system based on 35 voting blocks, and if I remember right, the Consilium Plebis adopted the same structure. A tribune was not a colonel. A colonel is a modern rank that has responsibility given to him by the state to command a regiment. The romans did not use a regimental system, nor does the modern day have six colonels time-sharing their command as the romans did with their tribunes pre-Marius. The same arguement applies to the centurion. The captain is a modern rank with fixed levels of responibility within a regimimental system,. Centurions were junior warband leaders with direct resonsibility for battlefield command, and in some circumstances, were also given control of territory within a province - far exceeding the captains status in some respects and not in others. I wouldn't rely entirely on T.A. Dodge. He was a military man who applied his own experience to the legions and decided it was the same. Of course it wasn't, but Dodges perspective has been repeated by educated military men since the victorian era. Its a distorted view of the roman legions. The problem is that the romans were organised, aggressive, and to their enemies, appeared as a monolithic military machine, ruthlessly marching across the face of the world and crushing anything in their path. This image has endured to the modern day, and so many times I come across young men staring glassy-eyed into the distance imagining being part of this system. The reality was very different. Roman soldiers were brutal men kept in line by severe discipline rather than loyalty to the state. They bullied civilians and each other. They bribed officers for easy duties and this behaviour, whilst considered undesirable by some statesmen, was more generally considered normal. Legions were independent mini-armies, each seperate from the other, answerable to their commanders more often than not, and certainly weren't shy of mounting mutinies or rebellions. I can't think of any modern army that operates anything like that. I get the impression you're searching for evidence to back this concept you have about a roman monolithic military machine. Its not a good idea. There's enough evidence left to us by romans themselves that suggests they were still using warbands (albeit in a formal and very organised fashion) in pretty much the same way as their enemies. Any attempt to describe the roman system in the same way as ours is ignoring that facts that don't fit, and thinking of a conclusion then trying to find arguements to make it work - thats not good history because inevitably you ignore information that doesn't agree with you. The romans lived two thousand years ago. They fought en-masse with sword and shield. There really isn't much similarity with the modern day and although some of their practises away from the battlefield parallel our own, they were geared to roman needs, not the modern day mechanised armies. -
Hey - guess what? - all of a sudden the government are listening. The Prime Minister is 'aware of the impact rising prices are having on families'. The Chancellor is willing to discuss budgetary concerns. Plans to raise road tax are being reviewed. I see. Now that lorry drivers are protesting over fuel tax, now they're losing elections and facing a possible ignomious end to New Labour, they're paying attention. Which means they weren't paying attention before. I always said they weren't, but at last we have a partial admission. But ministers still want a 60% pay rise to
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I'll send you a battering ram for xmas
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Essentially what Augustus was doing in Germania was the same as the americans settlers of the 19th century. Since there was no realm to conquer, they simply marched in, put up fences, and said to the alarmed inhabitants that this land is now under new management. Naturally the reaction of the german tribes was similar to that of the plains indians. Pacifying the tribes merely kept the peace - it did not bring them under the empire nor created new provinces. Conquest for the romans meant bringing new territory and its inhabitants under roman control - our definition of conquest is a little different, we simply say it means the enemy was beaten. Now you might claim that one tribe or another was beaten and therefore conquered, but then why did the germanian frontier present such a threat thereafter?
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No, there are people who apply scientific analysis to religion from its historical and archaeological perspective. I know what you mean though, since some people are religiously motivated, but the christian stranglehold on education and research is no longer as powerful as it was in past ages. For instance, the gospel of Thomas is preserved and the keepers admit they don't believe it (because it doesn't fit christian orthodoxy), but they preserve it nonetheless and allow others to study it irrespective of their motives.
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Was Jesus Caesar?
caldrail replied to Gaius Julius Camillus's topic in Templum Romae - Temple of Rome
Caldrail, can you elaborate on this? I am not familiar with it at all. There's a reference to this in Who's Who In The Roman World, but as of yet, I haven't found the source it comes from. Constantine certainly attempted to have Jesus worshipped as God, claiming the two were the same (arguably he succeeded since christians often worship Jesus above God). I'll keep an eye out on this, hopefully I'll spot something later. -
Sander van Dorst.
caldrail replied to Gaius Octavius's topic in Gloria Exercitus - 'Glory of the Army'
You are aware I take it, that slaves were recruited to the legions more than once? Granted they were made freedmen first, but hardly citizens were they? Further, that the practice of including landless peasants (and not ciizens either) in the levies was one inspiration for Marius's reforms and the opening of the legions to volunteers of the lower orders? -
Sander van Dorst.
caldrail replied to Gaius Octavius's topic in Gloria Exercitus - 'Glory of the Army'
Why would I believe you're right? You come up with titles no-one has ever heard of, formations the roman military never listed, and procedures that bear no resemblance to that I read in books written by established authorities. Simply claiming my prose is flowery does not make you right, and your replies are not standing up to scrutiny at all. -
Sander van Dorst.
caldrail replied to Gaius Octavius's topic in Gloria Exercitus - 'Glory of the Army'
There wasn't any membership. It was a voting assembly. The presiding officer calls for a vote, and any eligible citizen can pop down to Campus Martius and add their vote to the total. Thats roman democracy. The only limitation was that it wasn't a free vote. You had to add your vote to a senior romans. Secondly, changes in social status are circumstantial and have absolutely nothing to do with the 'Senate Censor'. Adrian Goldsworthy in The Complete Roman Army mentions that social mobility was always possible. There you RW, I quoted a source. You don't, which is why you're struggling to get your point across. No, it wasn't. It was a voting assembly for those men who had earned the right by virtue of military service to Rome. That said, it appears any citizen was entitled to attend an assembly. Not the same as yours either. I'll be happy to do so, once you start listing your sources. You can't have everything all your own way. -
Was Jesus Caesar?
caldrail replied to Gaius Julius Camillus's topic in Templum Romae - Temple of Rome
There is some evidence from India that he did, and visited the place early in his career, and there's some place in the north of India that has his tomb. Also I understand that israeli archaeologists have uncovered some. Thing is, there's no smoke without fire, and older legends are almost always built on something real - it provided the inspiration for the stories that followed. I don't have any source on any of this and I have to say I'm relying on what was discussed on tv. Mind you, given constantine's attempt to get a family member worshipped as Jesus, maybe you're right after all. Same thing happened with Arthur. He got inserted into celtic adventures as the hero in place of the original. But... I know Caesar claimed he was a descendant of the gods, but then that was self-aggrandisement and it wasn't unknown for romans of high birth to make such claims. In Jesus's case, he apparently portrayed himself as the Son of God, something much more direct, by virtue of being the expected Messiah, the chosen one. Caesar simply made sure he was chosen. -
The weather has taken a turn for the worse and its temporarily goodbye to long hot spring days. Yep. British weather has reasserted itself and its raining. Just in time for the traditional downpour on a Bank Holiday Weekend. Dream of the Week Nearly decided that getting a job was the front runner for that prize, but no, it was last nights dream about tornado's. Don't remember the details, but someone pointed out the window and there they were, four or five funnels under a thick black cloud, one heading our way. Of course we hid and I have to say, for a dream about a weather phenomenon I've never experienced, the special effects were pretty impressive. Luckily the building withstood the tornado as it passed over and I was spared a visit to Oz. TV Comedy of the Week Has to go to The Mighty Boosh. I'd not seen it before but came across a repeat on freeview tv. For those that don't know, its a surreal comedy about a young mystic and his pet familar, a talking gorilla, and the two local musicians he rents rooms to. Its bizzarre stuff but genuinely amusing at times, and I hate to say it, very observant of life in Britain. Might be a bit challenging for non-brits though. The gauntlet has been thrown down...
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Well, if my experience of the music industry is anything to go by, then opportunities can be created by yourself as well as others. Its about knocking on the right door and being in the right place at the right time. We even once dragged some music executive out of a nightclub for an impromptu sales pitch on the sreet. Ok, that didn't work... But getting yourself in front of an employer to give him your sales pitch can make a difference. Word of mouth. The chap you spoke might not have a vacancy for you but then perhaps someone he knows does. Then its a matter of making the right impression. So far though, I'm not desperate enough to wander up and down the street with a sandwich board saying "Gizza Job". Even if some employers think I am. No, that comes later, when the employment agency decide I'm a useless drain on society and attempt to persuade me that rubbish collection is an interesting and worthwhile career move.
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And before the spanish turned up with their horses (and dogs apparently), the amerindians were using dogs as draft animals.
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Well... Without being experts ourselves and not having access to the research or researchers, I for one will take the report at face value until I have reason to doubt it. Religion might be a matter of faith, but their paraphenalia left behind can be subject to scientific analysis. Wouldn't want to hoaxed eh?
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Was Jesus Caesar?
caldrail replied to Gaius Julius Camillus's topic in Templum Romae - Temple of Rome
My own objections about this comparison are based on the following criticisms of the Jesus story. I know christians won't like me saying these things, but then I'm a lone voice, and they've got plenty. 1 - Jesus was not divine Why did God wait until the beginning of the 1st century AD? If his own son was to have any meaningful impact, surely there were times and places better suited for the purpose. Why was he born to an insignificant mortal family out in the sticks? Why was he born a mortal? Why was he born at all? As the Son of God, why wasn't he given to Mary as such? Why was Mary's purity violated by the need to bear a bastard child? Since his status as Gods only begotten child requires faith in the absence of evidence, the assumption of his divinity is only backed by the story of Mary's supposed purity. Since Jesus was mortal, and that his mother gave birth to a child that was not his fathers, the conclusion is somewhat obvious and has been glossed over in the Bible to prevent any controversy. 2 - Jesus was a cult leader Acccording to the story, Jesus is a lay preacher, outside the accepted priesthoods. He pulls in a band of followers, attempts to attract others to his cause, and makes his living in this way. Typically, such charismatic people don't behave in quite the same way as most folk, and as an outsider to polite society there is no fundamental difference between Jesus as related in the Bible and modern day cultists. 3 - Jesus was a failure His own family disowned him. Further, whatever message he wanted to spread, he failed to do so, despite the glorification in the Bible. It was his followers who made christianity a success decades later, after his life story had been embellished. Depending on which source you believe, Jesus died by crucifixion in Judaea or of old age in India. 4 - Jesus was obscure A son of god, a prophesied messiah, is born in Judaea and goes on to perform miracles. But no-one says anything? Why didn't Suetonius relate an anecdote in his 'Life of Tiberius' about some guy in Judaea claiming to be divine? And why didn't Tiberius have him delivered to Capri for a personal demonstration of his miracles? Admittedly Tiberius cared little for provincial politics, but a genuine miracle-worker would surely have picqued his interest. According to some sources, Jesus travelled to Cornwall in England with traders. Whilst possible, there is no record of this journey other than folk tales from the places he was rumoured to have passed through, and the same might be said of his alleged early years in India. 5 - Jesus is largely myth Ok, he existed. But much of his reported life is apparently borrowed from eastern mysticism and pagan mythos. Much is said about Jesus's message being important rather than his metaphysical significance, but his 'message' is reported in the Bible, an account assembled from stories told decades after his death, sometimes by people who never met him, later subject to sectarian variance during the early and mid roman empire, later still censored to form the original drafts, which themselves were then retranslated and reworked in much the same way as other legended characters such as Arthur or Robin Hood. 6 - Jesus's death was meaningless Why is his death so low-key and if intended to die for our sins, why was there a need to do this? The Bible does not relate any threat from God to repeat the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah, despite the Judaean dislike of roman culture (though arguably, the later Book of Revelations predicts the downfall of Rome) The statement that he was crucified to save mankind is a message that a christian should therefore feel guilty if he does not follow the christian teachings, and is another example of inventing significance to explain mundane events in the real world.