Court of Antiochus

I had not heard about this case but I must say that I find the reasoning very, very difficult to understand. You knew the girl? Sorry for your loss, mate.

I guarantee that at the root of that belief was someone like a church pastor subtly manipulating them with the guilt of not having faith. I've seen it first hand on numerous occasions. I don't doubt that the parents had the best of intentions and I'm sure that they are being fed the notion that it was in the hands of God and that no man can understand God's plan. Questioning the notion shows a weakness of faith and indicates temptation by Satan to lead you astray when you are most vulnerable. One should be happy that the girl is now with God. Etc.

It's that very reasoning I find hard to understand. I'm a parent. If my kid were that sick, I wouldn't stop at God to find an answer. I am reluctant to pass judgement on the faith and belief of others but when there are children involved, well, I just think you should pull out all the stops. This isn't getting at you, either, Moon. Thanks for trying to help me understand.

I have never understood that mentality, in any faith. (Of course it's even harder for me to understand as I'm not anywhere near Christian).

 

I'm one of those people who will curse fate itself with a vengeance if someone I love is hurting.

Is this the story?

 

The girl was just 11 years old.

 

Those parents need to be charged with criminal negligence.

 

-- Nephele

It's that very reasoning I find hard to understand. I'm a parent. If my kid were that sick, I wouldn't stop at God to find an answer. I am reluctant to pass judgement on the faith and belief of others but when there are children involved, well, I just think you should pull out all the stops. This isn't getting at you, either, Moon. Thanks for trying to help me understand.

Indeed, it's completely absurd from a rational point of view. Those people are controlled by a social environment that has convinced them that an eternity of indescribable torment awaits them if they deviate from the prescribed rules. The only point of reference is usually the pastor and the other members of the group (along with approved outlets of media) which often use techniques such as hypnotism and subliminal messaging (often oblivious to the fact they are using these techniques) to exert influence. If you've ever noticed the wall of noise created by a church band, the repetitive or formless background music, or the constant affirmative outbursts of group members during fervent spoken prayer of the pastor - these are good examples. An intrustion of objective reasoning in this situation is almost shocking and is immediately attributed the influence of Satan or of demons. It also has a near immediate affirming effect as members cling more tightly to their beliefs after momentarily glimpsing soimething that threatens to undermine the entire structure of their reality. I can tell you from personal experience that if you are raised in this environment, you have no other scope of reality. To reject it requires a complete re-evaluation of everything inside your mind and everything that you can sense, a transferrence of your mental dependency to another ideology, or even a denial of any sort of meaningful thought except for a hatred of Christianity.

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These vomit for brains types can tell the world that 9/11, Katrina, etc., were God's vengence on America for homosexuality, abortion, liberalism and Democrats, but they can't advance to the religiously logical step that God created doctors for a purpose. I am sure that it was Type I diabetes. Some simple tests, insulin, and a good diet, and the kid would be alive. These too are God given. Now they can go before their 'family' of whole asses and claim that they have done God's will. Oh!, yes, they will willingly tithe for the benefit of their leader - who doesn't believe one word that he belches.

Is this the story?

 

The girl was just 11 years old.

 

Those parents need to be charged with criminal negligence.

 

-- Nephele

 

That is criminal stupidity.